When Chauvin is acquitted...

Why did you jump eagerly to that false conclusion?

I made no value judgement at all.

 

All that may be true, but there was no reason to lean on his neck for 8 minutes.

 

If there was ever an example of a troll thread........

 

Yes! there was, he was eventually going to kill an innocent victim with his criminal behavior. The world is a better place with him not on it and a future victim of his will live on and not see their life cut short, because of some stupid Crime he committed.

 

Sorry, but some people might conclude the implication of your post by default is that the race of 4 members of the jury should somehow be a pertinent to the outcome of the trial. Your statement implies that somehow the fact they are black acts as a counterbalance to the assertion of the original poster (i.e.that Chauvin will be found innocent). The opposite implication could also obviously be drawn as well i.e. the presence of 8 non-black jury members means he is more likely to be found innocent.

It may be obvious but the race of these jurors (any jurors) should not be an element in determining guilt or innocence of the accused. And assuming it will (not saying you make this assumption BTW) does the individual jurors and the system a disservice. Too many posters on this forum are already looking for reasons to claim the 'system' is rigged (usually against them).

 

Case in point yes. Noor was doing his lawful duty as a police officer when things went horribly wrong. Same thing in the George Floyd case. I say Chauvin gets off with a slap on the wrist at most.

 

We had 4 years of Democrats claiming the system was rigged against them.
We can try hard to ignore race on the jury. I do not mind ignoring it. I simply pointed out a fact.

BLM and ANTIFA kind of force race to be an issue, don't you agree?

 

Chauvin was slapped hard when he was fired. What Law force will take him as a tainted man?

Who wants to hire Chauvin if he is found innocent?

 

1. Floyd had "fatal levels" of fentanyl in his system at the time of his arrest (1)
2. Placing a knee on the neck to control a suspect was a part of Officer Chauvin's training (2)
3. Autopsy shows no signs of "traumatic asphyxia or strangulation" (3)

These three pieces of evidence alone is enough reasonable doubt as to Chauvin's guilt. In a just world, Officer Chauvin is found not guilty. However, the left is threatening to burn down the city if he is found not guilty, so that may interfere with Chauvin's right to a fair trial. Also, in a just world, holding Chauvin's trial in Minneapolis with the current climate is grounds for a mistrial. Plus, Floyd was a chronic criminal, not much of an upstanding citizen.

1. https://www.kare11.com/article/news...ystem/89-ed69d09d-a9ec-481c-90fe-7acd4ead3d04
2. https://www.kare11.com/article/news...floyd/89-9f002e3f-972a-4410-86cb-50a1237fc496
3. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...tential-intoxicants-in-his-system/ar-BB14NLpa

 

Chauvin might be guilty of using bad judgement, but it will be a tough go to convict him of murder. The biggest hurdle will be to say conclusively that the knee on the neck was what killed Floyd. As emotional as the witnesses are, none can say with any authority that the knee on the neck killed him. Then that procedure was taught by the police academy and was an approved procedure.

The defense has yet to present their side of the story.

 

Unfortunately the St. George Floyd cadre are going to base their entire argument for reparations for slavery on the outcome of this case. Doesn't look good for Chauvin's chances for a not guilty verdict does It?

 

I think the evidence is on Chauvin's side, but I think he will be scapegoated. How many buildings will burn if Chauvin is found not guilty? How many people will die if Chauvin is found not guilty? How many people's lives will be destroyed if Chauvin is found not guilty. I don't think the jury members are going to risk their own lives for justice. Chauvin is the sacrificial lamb.

 

Not really, oh I agree it can be hijacked for that purpose but then just about any cause/belief/idea can be hijacked by ideologues. In any case BLM and ANTIFA they are not racially 'exclusive'. On the far right side of the spectrum however you get too many groups like 'Proud Boys' etc who are exactly that.

As far as ANTIFA goes (or as I refer to them 'Rent a Crowd') anything that's handy is an issue. That and the anarchic/transient nature of their operations means they will never amount to a serious threat traditional government/societies. They simply can't maintain the organizational focus needed for anything more complex than a riot or sit in. After awhile they get tired and move on to the next 'issue'. As a political movement they suffer from a collective form of ADHD.

 

Huh?

 

I just hope that if they do find Chauvin not guilty and the left, per usual, starts rioting (or mostly peacefully protesting, as the media would say), this guy comes in to save the day:

 

Race is an obvious tool of BLM or they wouldn't be calling themselves that would they? As for Antifa they blame their violent tendencies on trying to protect the poor, poor pitiful minorities from the evil white Europeans. See how that works? You get to be violent and tear stuff up and still get to be the good guys.

 

And this is a thread advocating for violence. It’s a calling card. Nothing more. Don’t take the bait people. My guess is the Op is FBI.

 

You watch too many movies

 

@lemmiwinx


What be don't see is was Floyd resisting being cuffed
such as trying to keep his hand apart.

Before that while still in his car we did see
the officer said for Floyd to show his right hand.
Floyd said he was while he was not, several times.


Chauvin will be sacrificed for the public welfare!


Moi

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Chauvin was guilty long before his trial ever started. We no longer have a justice system we have a political whatever the elites think will keep them in power system. And it stinks to high heaven.

 

That Floyd died of an overdose when he had a police officer's knee pressing on his neck is pure coincidence.

 

Your superficial analysis aside, when the evidence shows there was zero evidence of mechanical asphyxia, what will you then say? He, as all of the autopsies demonstrated, died of hypotensive heart failure. Do you even know what that is? It means that his body shut down. It didn't asphyxiate, or die from lack of airflow. Floyd died because he was high, he overdosed of Fentanyl. Oxy, Meth, and possibly because he was covid positive at the time. When your narrative blows up on you again, what will you then do? Apologize to the nation for all of the destruction your narrative caused?

 

Sorry no such videos exist ...
And the op left out serial drug abusers Which is what actually killed Floyd.

 

That's not what the Doctor who tried to save him testified to yesterday. He said the heart stopped do to what most people call asphyxia.

 

Hmm.. so, not murder at all then. Contributory negligence perhaps? Tell me, if the officers there had cuffed and stuffed dude in a van, and he died from his overdose in the van during transport, would you still be as outraged? Or does criminal high on drugs dies while in police custody still evoke this kind of ridiculous histrionics from you folks? Tell me, there was a similar video of a multi racial group of police who similarly had a high drug overdose death in Dallas a couple years back. Same circumstances, officer with knee on neck and everything. They even joked that little jimmie had to wake up , time for school and all. It's a horrific video to watch. Why didn't that rise to the level of your indignation? I doubt you'll have any reaction at all given that the victim in that case was white. It's why no one in the national narrative will bring it up.

It sucks that Floyd died, but the evidence demonstrates that he did so by his own hand, and instead of dying quietly in a flop, he did so loudly, in public, and incited a nation full of racists to destroy city after city in our nation.