Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Model blather.
     
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    More model blather.
     
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    Are you planning to post anything other than C & P?
     
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    Page 20 and still no climate emergency to talk about and post one article CONTENT continues to be avoided in sheer terror by warmist/alarmists the world over.

    Post one article is unchallenged and still stands on its hard evidence presented.
     
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    The Jet Stream is healthy.
    Models, Climate Scientists Wrong Again…New Study Finds Jet Stream Strengthening, Not Weakening
    By P Gosselin on 9. August 2022

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    Alarmist climate research centers like the Potsdam Institute and the unquestioning media have been claiming for years that the Jet Stream is weakening, hence this would lead to greater weather extremes across the northern hemisphere due to blocking. Responsible for this of course is man-made global warming.

    Hat-tip: The Klimaschau

    But a recent paper by Samantha Hallam et al published in the journal Climate Dynamics looks at the seasonal to decadal variations in Northern Hemisphere jet stream latitude and speed over land for the period 1871–2011. The authors were unable to find any weakening of the sort climate alarmists have been warning about.

    Quite to the contrary, the authors in fact found that the winter jet stream over the North Atlantic and Eurasia has increased in average speed by 8% to 132 mph. The authors found the 141-year trends in jet latitude and speed show differences on a regional basis and that jet speed shows significant increases evident in winter (up to 4.7 ms −1 ), spring and autumn over the North Atlantic, Eurasia and North America. Over the North Pacific, no increase was observed.

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    Source: Figure 9, Climate Dynamics.

    Moreover, the Jet Stream was found to have shifted northward by some 330 kilometers. Overall, the paper’s findings contradict the claims of a weakening jet Stream regularly made by the climate alarmists and their media minions.

    Applying climate alarmist science, we’d have to conclude now, due to the strengthening Jet Stream, less weather extremes should be expected. This would be good news of course. But don’t expect the fear-porn media to look at this.
     
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    The main panel shows global net anthropogenic CO2 emissions in pathways limiting global warming to 1.5°C with no or limited (less than 0.1°C) overshoot and pathways with higher overshoot. The shaded area shows the full range for pathways analysed in this Report. The panels on the right show non-CO2 emissions ranges for three compounds with large historical forcing and a substantial portion of emissions coming from sources distinct from those central to CO2 mitigation. Shaded areas in these panels show the 5–95% (light shading) and interquartile (dark shading) ranges of pathways limiting global warming to 1.5°C with no or limited overshoot. Box and whiskers at the bottom of the figure show the timing of pathways reaching global net zero CO2 emission levels, and a comparison with pathways limiting global warming to 2°C with at least 66% probability. Four illustrative model pathways are highlighted in the main panel and are labelled P1, P2, P3 and P4, corresponding to the LED, S1, S2, and S5 pathways assessed in Chapter 2. Descriptions and characteristics of these pathways are available in Figure SPM.3b. {2.1, 2.2, 2.3, Figure 2.5, Figure 2.10, Figure 2.11}
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    What paid trolls do is try to create the appearance of controversy, where none exists.

    Big Tobacco invented the strategy when they were trying to dodge the lung cancer bullet. They knew better, Big Oil has known better since the 1970s..

    They are going to kill billions, wipe out many thousands of species, and crash civilisation.

    "I wouldn't let them, if I were you."
     
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    Characteristics of four illustrative model pathways in relation to global warming of 1.5°C introduced in Figure SPM.3a. These pathways were selected to show a range of potential mitigation approaches and vary widely in their projected energy and land use, as well as their assumptions about future socio-economic developments, including economic and population growth, equity and sustainability. A breakdown of the global net anthropogenic CO2 emissions into the contributions in terms of CO2 emissions from fossil fuel and industry; agriculture, forestry and other land use (AFOLU); and bioenergy with carbon capture and storage (BECCS) is shown. AFOLU estimates reported here are not necessarily comparable with countries’ estimates. Further characteristics for each of these pathways are listed below each pathway. These pathways illustrate relative global differences in mitigation strategies, but do not represent central estimates, national strategies, and do not indicate requirements. For comparison, the right-most column shows the interquartile ranges across pathways with no or limited overshoot of 1.5°C. Pathways P1, P2, P3 and P4 correspond to the LED, S1, S2, and S5 pathways assessed in Chapter 2 (Figure SPM.3a). {2.2.1, 2.3.1, 2.3.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.4.1, 2.4.2, 2.4.4, 2.5.3, Figure 2.5, Figure 2.6, Figure 2.9, Figure 2.10, Figure 2.11, Figure 2.14, Figure 2.15, Figure 2.16, Figure 2.17, Figure 2.24, Figure 2.25, Table 2.4, Table 2.6, Table 2.7, Table 2.9, Table 4.1}
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    It appears that warmist/alarmists can't answer a simple question posed at POST ONE which asked:

    Where is the climate emergency?

    The replies have been insultingly dismissive, trolling, fallacies and threadjacking all the while the question gets ignored.

    It is clear there is NO climate emergency at all since after 20 pages warmist/alarmists never once addressed the CONTENT of Post one article.

    The climate in my region is the same today as it was in 1964 and people are satisfied with their lives there as it had quadrupled in population since 1964 Americans have for many decades made it clear they prefer to live in the warmer areas of America look at Pheonix, Las Vegas, Palm Springs, Miami and so on cities growing in some of the hottest areas of America while the Northern states population grows much slower as it is less warm there.

    Climate emergency exists only in the brainwashed warmist/alarmist suckers and dishonest political circles who are trying hard to be planetary saviors egged on the chronically lying Media who has a long history of manufacturing scenarios that doesn't exist.
     
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    Of course there isn't. There isn't a rational argument for "climate change".
     
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    Human generated problem being blamed on the nebulous phrase Climate Change a gigantic lie the miserable media made.

    Real Climate Science

    The Press Vs. Science
    Posted on August 14, 2022 by tonyheller

    The press says the Great Salt Lake is shrinking due to the burning of fossil fuels.

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    Scientists say that isn’t true.

    Utah's Great Salt Lake has lost half its water, thanks to thirsty humans
    New study suggests consumption—not climate change—is to blame for falling water levels
    LINK

    No climate emergency here.
     
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    You mean the thawing of more permafrost into more arable land?
     
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    Yeah, a simple check in actual data shows that the Media is lying again which should have long ago taught people to stop relying on them and look it up for themselves instead which is what Independent Free-Thinking people normally do.
     
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    Permafrost used to be in Illinois, N and S Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Washington, Oregon, New York, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire and more down to around the 42-45 degrees North latitude and it was similar in Europe and Asia too.

    Yet people today go bananas over a small Permafrost melt that is already in the far north and the world never died off from the supposed torrential Methane release over thousands of years as the Permafrost line receded to the north.
     
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    What gaslighters do is tell you that facts you know from your own experience are not reality. The claim that no controversy exists on the question of CO2's effect on global surface temperature is therefore flat-out gaslighting.
    That is a fallacious, disingenuous, and even bizarre attempt to claim guilt by association in the absence of any actual association.
    Baldly false.
    Absurd hysteria mongering.
     
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    More accurately, there isn't a rational argument for climate change that was never caused by CO2 from fossil fuels before to somehow be caused by CO2 from fossil fuels this time.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    3 weeks later still ZERO answer to the Post 1 article, the terror of it must be paralyzing.

    Where is the Climate Emergency?

    Even the Cut and Paste master couldn't answer a simple question as he was too busy posting off topic drivel that doesn't address post one at all which means he doesn't have the answer either.

    This is the greatest fly paper article I have even seem one that so totally reduces warmist/alarmists into making chronic off topic drivel and avoid the simple question completely because they know in the corner of their heads that they can't address the evidence in post one article.

    Post one article remains unaddressed and unchallenged
     
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    There is a growing body of scientists who have signed a declaration that there is NO Climate Emergency, 1,107 signed this 38-page declaration,

    World Climate Declaration LINK

    There is no climate emergency Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.

    Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming. The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.

    Warming is far slower than predicted. The world has warmed significantly less than predicted by IPCC on the basis of modeled anthropogenic forcing. The gap between the real world and the modeled world tells us that we are far from understanding climate change.

    Climate policy relies on inadequate models Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools. They do not only exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases, they also ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.

    CO2 is plant food, the basis of all life on Earth CO2 is not a pollutant. It is essential to all life on Earth. More CO2 is favorable for nature, greening our planet. Additional CO2 in the air has promoted growth in global plant biomass. It is also profitable for agriculture, increasing the yields of crops worldwide.

    Global warming has not increased natural disasters There is no statistical evidence that global warming is intensifying hurricanes, floods, droughts and suchlike natural disasters, or making them more frequent. However, there is ample evidence that CO2 mitigation measures are as damaging as they are costly.

    Climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050. Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works whatever the causes are.



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    A breath of reason. Thank you for posting this. The scientists and other professionals who signed this declaration are going to enjoy some of the biggest I-told-you-so rights in academia. Count on it.
     
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    Then we have this from 20 years ago:

    Global Warming Petition Project

    31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
    including 9,029 with PhDs

    LINK
     
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