Which countries should the UN demand return land taken by military conquest?

I fail to see how that definition of yours says they are hostile to the previous owners.
In fact.. it means: a native or inhabitant of ancient Philistia.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/philistine

And since the dawn of writing things down, that place has been called like that or something like that. Ancient Greeks and Egyptians did that. They did not call it Isrelistan or anything. Hence it does mean they are the original owners. And they had problems when the others moved in. Besides that. It's well known that according the the Jew bible, their God massacred the 1st borns of Egypt, so the Jew could march over the bones of innocent babies to the land of Canaan -do notice: not theirs- to massacre every man, woman, child, the elderly, the sick, babies... the lot of them,.. so they could thieve that land. And look at them little f** go today at it,.. still thieving that land and when oppose massacre around. Typical Jewish... since it's their religion. And unlike you, that isn't being ripped out of context.

 

Lol.... peaceful natives. Native Americans were called savages for a reason. They were *******n brutal to eachother. They were fighting eachother and taking eachother as slaves long before the white man showed up. I have great respect for them. But they were conquered, formed the way every other nation on earth has been formed. The ability to take, hold, and exploit ground is what gives a people the right to call itself a nation, not the amount of time they have lived there. Israel has proven itself to be worthy of its lands many times over. The UN should have no say in the matter.

 

I say Egyptians. They are still a people and country, and the 1st of those that still exist.
There hasn't been Israelites in 2000 yrs.

 

Oh I'm not avoiding that issue, I just think you are trying to avoid the actual topic of the thread by distracting comments about the Palestinians. In a perfect world, I think every (*)(*)(*)(*)-ant ethnic/religious group should have their own nation. But you have to actually work for those things. The Palestinians could declare Gaza a separate nation RIGHT NOW and fight to keep it. The fact that they would rather commit low level terrorism, kidnapping and killing Israeli kids, stabbing people on the street, or trying to run them down with cars, tells me all I need to know about their ability to govern themselves.

Right now, the Palestinians have chosen to be a lesser people.

 

Sure ... because then all the area of ME was only 1 country: Ottoman Empire!

But it is at least the core question how back should be looked back in such things... Wars and other circumstances changed throughout complete history of mankind borders, eliminated complete states / empires, as well let raise new one on the debris of the old one!

To give an extreme and of course ridiculous example: Can Italy been seen and rated as successor of Roman Empire and are they then allowed to demand all territory what Roman Empire had?

 

Turkey.

 

Others;

None. It none of the UNs damn business.

 

Any that gained land after the creation of the UN Charter, who were signatories of the UN Charter at the time of their illegal conquest.

 

You were the one who wanted to give the US back to Britain, so when it comes to pushing something to the ridiculous extreme, you tell me. You're the expert apparently.

 

People keep saying that, but I don't see any such conquest. If the Jews truly conquered land, they wouldn't be constantly threatened by the indigenous population of said land.

Are Native Americans still waging resistance against the settlers? No, because America was wholly conquered by the latter.

 

And what do we do about the Jews who are after the original goal of Zionism (Greater Israel)? But you probably think that the past wars that expanded Israeli territory were purely defensive....

 

I dunno. I think considering the utter stupidity of the Palestinians, Greater Israel has a better chance than even a single small Palestinian state.

 

Why do you expect average humans to act in an ideal manner?

 

Palestinians and Hamas are a danger to the world.

Keep up the good work Israel.

 

Average doesn't get it's own state.

 

Sure, but why are the Palestinians (and Muslims in general) placed on a pedestal when it comes to critical analysis? I suppose it's just human nature....

 

To be fair, every human on earth should all be required to move to East Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans

 

Placed on a pedestal? That's a good question. Throughout history, the losers...lost. The idea that there would be multi generational refugee camps for the Palestinians is mind boggling. They are the most special losers on the planet.

 

Your judgment is premature. They may be losing, yes, but they have yet to be subdued to the point where all hope is gone (which is the desire of many).

 

Well I offered my idea: Have Gaza declare itself an independent nation and start acting like it. I don't know what other idea you think will work.

 

China! Free Tibet!

 

Ehm ... I don't want this ... I only gave this as example for the core question in matter who far should then be gone back in history.

In general has Israel in my opinion the right of an own territory and state and all the blabbering of the country was robbed form the Arabs after WW-2 when Israel was installed is BS. Complete area was until end of WW-1 Ottoman Empire and until end of WW-2 more or less colony of the French and British.

But how Israel is acting against their Arabic part of population is only a shame.... and sorry to say, but their behavior here looks like they took teachers of Nazi Germany how to do such shameful things.

Think a moment about following situation: You are farmer and land owner of whatever acres of land. One morning you stay up, look out of the window and then you suddenly see a settlement on your land and you can do nothing legally against!

 

Dude...

It's you, JakeJ and ziggyfish who keeps ranting on questions about Palestinians towads me.

Ah yes... you want a totally impoverished people that is currently being ethnically cleansed to fight a conventional war against it's oppressor that is a nuclear power backed up by a super power. That is of course something that it's never going to happen. The only option is the way of asymmetric warfare. Besides that, can you tell me what the problem is when ethnic cleansers are being stabbed in the neck, and that their human shields are take out? I fail to spot a problem in that. Of course there are those who demand ethnic cleansers must be left unopposed in this case, just because the victim is an Arab and the war criminal is a Jew... but I aint a racist. Cmon.

Besides that. Palestina already IS a UN recognized nation. It has been like this for years now. Only a bunch of Christian/Judean Western countries refuse to accept this UN decision.

The Jew have chosen to be the lesser people, by freely chosing to ethnic cleanse others. Look at them gits defying the UN security council resolution to freaking quit that expanding their colonies across their borders. These demands are even decades old! The West Bank, Golan, Gaza, and even East Jerusalem is not and may not be part of Israel so says THE ENTIRE WORLD! But them Jews still keep voting in governments to go forth, and massively joining the institude who does that. See that I care a bunch of no good warcriminals are been run on the land they ethnically cleansed while waiting for a bus by a victim of theirs.

 

Palestina already is a recognized UN nation.
I fail to see what your idea adds to this.

 

Property disputes really seem below the UN to get involved in multiple resolutions about, when you compare to the real atrocities that happen around the world every day. That's not even really the topic of this thread.