Which countries should the UN demand return land taken by military conquest?

If Israel will annex the occupied lands the UN would not object. It is the occupation (without annexation) that is problematic.
Annexation would require recognition of Palestinians citizenship in the Israel state (unless an Apartheid system was formally invoked), which would allow Palestinians not only the opportunity to vote, but also access to the Israeli judicial system.

 

I honestly don't know if Gaza declared itself an independent nation if Israel would invade or not. I do know as long as Palestinians in Gaza continue to fire rockets into Israel, and dig tunnels to smuggle terrorists into Israel, Israel will continue to have these little wars. I noticed you euphemistically referred to terrorist acts against civilian populations as "asymmetric warfare." That's not actually the definition of asymmetric warfare. The word you are trying to avoid using is terrorism.

If, as you say, Palestine is already an independent nation (hey the UN said so) then problem solved. We don't have to waste time discussing it.

 

Palestina is an independent nation, recognized by the UN and by most countries of the world. Maybe you should look it up and know what youre talking about.

Victims of ethnic cleansers who violently object to those war crimes are indeed no terrorist. It's of course Israel and its Jews who are the terrorist. They go over their internationally recognized borders with their bulldozers and weapons to violenly ethnic cleanse Arabs to make Jew only colonies.

As for the definition:

Wikipedia:
Asymmetric warfare (or asymmetric engagement) is war between belligerents whose relative military power differs significantly, or whose strategy or tactics differ significantly. This is typically a war between a standing, professional army and an insurgency or resistance movement.

Sorry... but I am correct.
Seems you just omit that the Jews ethnic cleanse Arabs to make it seem that the Jews are the victims of terrorism.

 

Throughout this thread, I've consistently referred to Gaza, not "Palestina." I'm making the distinction because Gaza and the West Bank are geographically separate and are governed differently (Is "Palestina" a Confederation between Gaza and the West Bank?). Gaza has seaports and seems more likely to make a go of it as an independent nation. Except of course it's populated by Palestinians who don't seem to have shown they can govern themselves responsibly.

There is a difference between insurgencies and terrorist acts. You can have an insurgency without being a terrorist. I don't expect you to understand that of course.

 

I couldn't vote in your poll because the United Nations shouldn't be demanding anything of anybody! If I had my way, the UN would box up its crap, load it on a boat, and leave the soil of the United States within 48 hours. Um... on second thought, make that 24 hours!

 

Because of their race? I seem to remember similar sentiments being displayed in Mein Kempf...

And you can have a state that is a terrorist, like Israel

 

Palestine is a region, upon which sits several states.
The state of Palestine does not exist, nor has it ever.

 

The reality is that Palestina is a recognized nation, and Gaza is part of it. It is not part of Israel. That is all what matters. Hence it is simply not possible for Gaza to go for an indpendence of Israel, since it never was part of Israel. At best/worst it was occupied by Israel. In fact it still is occupied by Israel. And as far as I could see, you are not proposing that Gaza should be seperated from Palestina. Besides that... since you put the word Palestina between brackets seems you do refuse to accept it's a nation and so refuse to see Gaza as part of it. Your entitled of your opinion,.. but it has nothing to do with the generally accepted way of how it is.

How the Palestinians fight against Israel, fits the discription of the ways of asymmetric warfare. I do expect you understand this. The only key problem is for you to acknowledge who is the ethnic cleansing who at the barrel of a gun that frequently fires causing an enourmous massacre and that violently resisting these war criminals is totally justified. And the most obvious reason of that problem is racially motivated. And even though when you read this, you know this is so, but you never will admit to it. It is like an American saying he lives in the land of the free during the 1950's when black people were 2nd class and gay people were considered pedophiles.

 

It actually does exist.

The State of Palestine is recognized by 136 UN members and since 2012 has a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

 

Please provide a map that shows the borders of a state called "Palestine".

 

Please post a link to your messages complaining of ME Muslim countries ethnic cleansing of Jews - or your message essentially is open hatred of Jews for the one-sidedness.

 

"Because of their race?" That's interesting. When did I bring up race?

 

If it's a recognized nation than what are you complaining about?

I think the major ethnic cleansing that's going on in that part of the world is happening with the Christians and Yazidi's in ISIS controlled territory. As far as the Palestinians, how are they being ethnically cleansed in in Gaza?

 

It is a recognized nation, so why wonder why it is to than put it in brackets?

I like your idea of saying Israel is like ISIS, ethnic cleansing around.

 

They are quotation marks, not brackets, and the reason they are in quotation marks is that it's an odd choice to refer to Palestine as Palestina on an English language forum.

 

Neah. All that shows is your argument of other Arabs ethnic cleansed Jews hence ethnic cleansing Palestinians by Jews is perfectly justified because they are Arabs too. Kind of like, since bernie madoff is a Jew and thieved like 65 billion bucks from a lot of white people, and since I am white makes it alright to thieve whatever from any random Jew.

That is one heck of a racist argument.
So I'm going to decline the idea of linking that crap and end your train of thought.

 

Why?
The UN has stated what is Israel, and what they regard as occupied.
The UN recognize Palestine as a country, well over a 100 countries recognize it as a country.
Why you keep trolling the name of that country in brackets as if it all aint true.

 

most nations on Earth recognize the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem as "Palestine".

 

Jews have already been cleansed out of nearly the entire Muslim ME.

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Your diversion doesn't work, does it?

Bigotry and racism is always based on grotesque liez, blantantly and extremely so.

There is no ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Their population continues to grow and Muslims are becoming the majority in Israel. Israel is the ONLY county in the region that has not engaged in widespread, massive ethnic cleansing. In fact, Palestinian population has increased from 200% to nearly 400% since the beginning of Israel as a Jewish state.



In addition, the life expectancy of Palestinians also has greatly increased:



Their population has more than doubled and their life expectancy has increased by 20 years. But absolutely racists against Jews and Israel declare that is "ethnic cleansing." Racism and bigotry is always based on extreme, absurdly false, lies.

 

but there was, in 1948, 1950, and 1967.

more than 1 million Palestinians unable to return to their homes either in Israel or the West Bank.

 

Taking back Israel from the Ottoman empire was accomplished by the British Empire,
somehow could surmise that the Balfour declaration is still aligned with that concept of military conquest.

 

So? Doesn't change anything about now either way. Nor was there any country of Palestine in 1948, 1950 or 1967 either.

 

There was no America in 1775. Or 1654. Or 1492.

So what's your point?

 

is that what Israel is doing? taking the land via military action?

 

Can't do it, eh?
There's a reason for that -- there is no state of Palestine.

If you look at this map, you'll see the states of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel -- but no state of Palestine.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.816712,36.897518,7.25z

A sovereign state is, in international law, a nonphysical juridical entity that is represented by one centralised government that has sovereignty over a geographic area. International law defines sovereign states as having a permanent population, defined territory, one government, and the capacity to enter into relations with other sovereign states.[1] It is also normally understood that a sovereign state is neither dependent on nor subjected to any other power or state.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state

Let me know when you can show the state of Palestine on a map - until then, you have nothing but a bunch of meaningless words that do not reflect reality.