While others woo Florida, Ron Paul’s strategy is to rack up delegates in February

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  1. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Like Obama drones, you can elect to ignore what Paul said

    But a huge majority of voters are not blinded by their support for the candidate

    Paul said it, so learn to deal with the results
     
  2. Krypt

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    Yeah...that's it...repost what you already said and not post ANY EVIDENCE to support your RIDICULUOUS claim. I asked you to provide proof and you CAN'T....period!!

    It's people like YOU that think we can bury our head in the sand and can do things without repercussion. Like I said...wake up to the real world!!
     
  3. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    I reposted it since you IGNORED all it except the first few words

    If I have my head buried in the sand, I know where your head is at by continuing to deny what oyur boss said io the video
     
  4. marbro

    marbro New Member

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    I know what paul said and I know what you said. It is YOU who claim that paul said americans deserve to die. You said it was in the video...another lie

    Your a liar pal, And I have no problem calling you on it.
     
  5. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    If you knoew what Paul said, you would be as outraged at him as I am (and millopns of other voters)

    But your blind loyality to the old fart is sad to see
     
  6. charliedk

    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    why do so many fear change..not change but real change..why is everyone so scared..
    the kind of change where as to just kicking a door down compared to tearing the whole friggin house down..
    and so what then..we're going to let a handful of wussie terrorist scare us..
    I say welcome them to america with open arms and then return them to they're country of origin in an open casket..saves lives and money..
    every president promises change but as soon as they're elected it all stays pretty much the same..
    I don't care if Ron Paul is a lying ugly sack of kaka..at least he's going stir things up in DC..won't have to listen to the yes we can BS from Obama and the rhetoric from big business Romney anymore..
     
  7. Krypt

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    Really? You posted proof? Okay...well let's see...here is the exact text of everything Paul said in the video you linked...

    Ron Paul...word for word....direct from YOUR VIDEO. The same video YOU claim Ron Paul "dismisses the deaths" and "americans deserved it" Please kindly point out where you see those words...

    Now for even more insight as to Paul being correct

    "Reasons for the attacks were stated before and after the attacks in several sources, including the videos of Ayman al-Zawahiri and Fatawā, interviews of Osama bin Laden and videos and audio recordings of Osama bin Laden. The motivations identified for the attacks include the support of Israel by the United States, presence of the U.S. military in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and the U.S. enforcement of sanctions against Iraq." - wiki

    "December 27, 2001 - Bin Laden released another video tape stating "Terrorism against America deserves to be praised because it was a response to injustice, aimed at forcing America to stop its support for Israel, which kills our people". In the recording, bin Laden describes attacks by the United States against Islamic peoples."

    Now...tell me again why Ron Paul was wrong...


    And on a side note in response to your posting of those pictures and your claim that I support the deaths of those people...

    I stood at the base of those two towers and marveled at their greatness on September 9th, 2001...two days before the attacks. I was there...in New York on September 14th to help in any way I could with various organizations such as Red Cross and others.

    I was there in New York..again...for the Super Bowl that following year to support the people of New York for the U2 Halftime Tribute. I stood among the people that lost so much. I shed tears with them. I stood and watched every police officer in sight turn and salute the flag while the deafening silence of a completely packed bar united as one together to remember the fallen.

    So please...tell me again how much I support something like that because you have NO idea who I am or what I have done for my fellow Americans...
     
  8. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    As usual you left out the Mod's questions to Paul if he was blaming America for the 9/11 attack and his answer was clear YES

    In fact 2 weeks after the attacks. Paul stood on the House floor and blamed Amercia for the attacks

    The crews had not recovered all the bodies from the rubble yet, or cleaned the blood from the sidewalks were people landed after jumping 90 stories to avoid being burned alive - here is your hero smearing America

    To you non Paul supporters if you watch the video please have a barf bag handy

    You will need it


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XaRKzHuIVZw
     
  9. RP12

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    He mentions historical facts of our involvement in the ME. Ron Paul cant help that you are a mindless drone that thinks people want to kill us "for our freedoms".
     
  10. Krypt

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    LOL....ok man...it's apparent you just go about posting what you think he said....even though I posted it...word for word. Keep trolling. It's sad that you are so blind to the real world. I hope someday you will finally wake up.
     
  11. Dan40

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  12. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    I posted what he said and much to your dismay (and public temper tanturm) most voters agree with me

    Your guy if bringing up the rear when the votes are counted and he is doing nothing more then taking up space on stage and on the ballot

    Get over it boy and admit Ron's best days are behind him
     
  13. Krypt

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    No...I actually quoted it word for word (You can listen to your video and read the exact quote I listed and you will see you were wrong)

    Funny how you keep trying to steer away from that...isn't it??

    Now answer this question....what was the cause of 9/11? (Not the effect...we all know what the effect was). What was the cause of it. Why did it happen?
     
  14. Krypt

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    Let's look at the facts.

    Facts state both Santorum and Gingrich are NOT on the ballots in some states and will most likely not obtain the delegates from those areas. Who will those go to?? Romney and Paul.

    In polls for the general election, who ranks highest in beating Obama...

    Obama vs. Romney
    Obama - 47.5
    Romney - 45.3

    Obama vs. Paul
    Obama - 47.4
    Paul - 43.0

    Obama vs Santorum
    Obama - 50.1
    Santorum - 41.1

    Obama vs. Gingrich
    Obama - 51.6
    Gingrich - 39.8

    Paul has a better shot than Gingrich or Santorum...
     
  15. MnBillyBoy

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    The Mn. Twins have a better shot at beating The Yankees.
    At least the Twins win their division from time to time..

    Where does Paul win ?

    The new lunar colony ?
     
  16. marbro

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    You have been exposed as a liar. yet you keep it up. You must be a troll.

    How ron paul does in the election doesnt change the fact that you lied and have been exposed as a liar.
     
  17. Dan40

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    The facts are as I posted above and you quoted. This thread was about Paul picking up delegates in Feb. I posted the averages of multiple HIGHLY RESPECTED polls showing that IF Paul plans to pick up delegates THIS month. He is very late getting started.
    Paulobots will go to any length to avoid reality..

    Paul's "strength" is in these groups.

    YOUNG, the youngest voters. NEVER even 10% of the electorate and that is consistent with the primaries so far. The young "SAY" they support Paul, but they don't come out and VOTE. Just as Paul "SAYS" he is for many good causes, but he never has made even one of them come into being.

    Next group supporting Paul, the least educated. Draw your own conclusions on that. I just say THEY don't get out and vote either.

    Next group supporting Paul, the lowest income earners. See least educated above, Same deal.

    Tea party, chose Romney and Gingrich over Paul.
    Conservatives chose Romney and Gingrich over Paul.

    Moderate to liberal, chose Paul over Romney and Gingrich. That is the most damming thing anyone could ever hope to say about Paul. Liberals like him!

    Those ARE the facts and the reality. Paul may or may not QUIT this month. But he will be out of the race by Mar 1. Even if he doesn't drop, he will be out of it in the minds of intelligent voters.
     
  18. Krypt

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    Words from the self-claimed independent voter who so far is not supporting anyone but will blindly vote for whoever the nominee will be regardless of how he feels of that candidates stances on our country's issues....hypocrisy at it's finest....(BTW....my polls came from RCP...since that seems the be the "standard website" around here)
     
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    It amazes me that as passionate as Paul's supporters are, those that despise him seem to border on the obsessive.

    To desire something with great passion is admirable.

    To hate/fear something with great passion is - IMO - rather disturbing.

    Especially something as peace-loving and simple as the ideas that Ron Paul champions.


    But the more people (usually old/older people, btw) that state their fear of a Ron Paul Presidency; and the more people that become fans of his common sense approach (usually younger people, btw) the more convinced I am that one day his 'extremist' views will become common.

    The older opposition will simply fade away. And the young supporters will take their place.


    It just shows how much America has lost it's way that the candidate that most believes in following the apparent will of the founding fathers and the Constitution they wrote is the one the public seems to most fear.


    Ron Paul will never be President (sadly), IMO.

    But someone that shares most of his views (his son?) one day will be, also IMO.
     
  20. Dan40

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    Mine too. But kindly note the title of this thread, "While others woo Florida, Ron Paul’s strategy is to rack up delegates in February."

    The who vs b.o. doesn't count for anything until AFTER the Nominee is named.
     
  21. Dan40

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    I'm all for someone that can bring R Paul's platform to fruition. Paul can't and won't.

    To continually state the rational FACT that Paul has never accomplished even one of his ideas is NOT HATE. It is rationality to not back a empty talking failure, no matter how alluring his talk may be. I have often stated that someone younger with the fire and the ability to ACCOMPLISH some or most of Paul's stands would be welcome. It is not Paul the man I'm against. It is not the ideas of Paul that I'm against. I'm against wasting time and energy on a politician that has done nothing but talk, and would continue to do nothing but talk. He has had his chances for 3 decades. Time for him to shut up and go home. Pass the torch and go away, talker!
    It's not wasting my love like immature, impressionable kids. Not hate.
     
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    It was a plausible post until that bit about "minds of intelligent voters". What kind of person would choose a duplicitous slug like Gingrich(fired by his own party) or a status-quo clone like Romney to fix anything.... Stupid people is who...
     
  23. Dan40

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    And bright people would elect a person that has never done anything but talk?
    List Paul's accomplishments besides getting reelected over and over while touting term limits and getting NO bills passed.
    He voted his conscience you say? List all the politicians that have NOT claimed the same.
    Here is the list of politicians that have NOT, "voted their conscience." And can "prove it."

    1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Paul has sponsored over 700 bills, More than the average long term POLITICIAN. Not all of his sponsored bills were about his "important positions," but most were. How many of his "important positions" have become law? None.

    I have voted for longer than Paul has been in politics. Many of his "important positions," are at least as important to me as they are to him. But none of his/my "important positions," have been enacted.
    WHY would anyone continue to support a person that cannot get ANYTHING done? Not one out of over 700.

    I can and do forgive Paul his wacky statements, because they are overridden by wise and reasonable statements. What no one should forgive is his lack of positive action on any important position.

    We just finished the super Bowl. Paul is like an offensive lineman that is more enthusiastic than any other player on the team, and he has more wisdom of the game than anyone else on the field. BUT, every play, the defense runs right over him and sacks the QB. He has the enthusiasm, he has the knowledge. He just has no ability to play the game. BENCH HIM!
     
  24. Peter Szarycz

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    Well, hold on. Ron Paul is an extreme parody of Obama and quite possibly many other politicians, or at least he parodies the general trends in politics today (Bush too made a similar strides). His job is to talk in meaningless cliches, to talk a lot and say exactly nothing (aren't these the qualities which define a good politician?) while letting his underbosses do all the dirty work in behind-the-scenes deals. Ron Paul is in step with times. Definitely mainstream and electable. A public relations man of mystery.
     
  25. red states rule

    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    You and Krypt really are something else. Paul openly blames America for 9/11 yet despite video of his own words you decide to ignore it

    Fine - go ahead

    That is one of the reasons his campaing is going nowhere, and more elections he loses the more bitter you, Paul, and his supporters become

    Soon the supporters of Ron Paul will hold their meetings in a Hall of Mirrors while Paul is back home where he belongs
     

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