While others woo Florida, Ron Paul’s strategy is to rack up delegates in February

My complaint has never been about what Paul says. My complaint is that in 3 decades in Congress he has never been capable of getting even one of his important issues passed into law. He says interesting words, some I VERY much agree with. But for 30 years he has been Congressman Word, not Congressman Action. It is my opinion that Paul is now cast in concrete. He has never got anything passed, HE never will. He is, a totally wasted vote.

 

So which successful passer of bad legislation are you voting for?

 

Lame and weak. What others have done or not done has nothing to do with what Paul has FAILED to do.

You Paulists are mare and more like thew loony liberals. They PROVE b.o. is good by saying Bush was bad. The same wrong and warped imagination that Paulists use. Other politicians are bad, therefore Paul uis good.

NO!

Paul never got one important issue passed, not one. That is Paul's fault. No one else.

If you wish to discuss the successes and failures of any other politicians, START a thread about each one. This thread is about Paul and his semi-clever strategy of passing on FL to pick up delegates in Feb.

You can look up tonites dismal Paul failure on your own.

 

I don't know. He's an anomaly. If you don't like his content, you definitely have to appreciate his style. Jessy Ventura would surely say the same thing. I have no preference for Paul. It's none of my business to begin with. I would often disagree with him. For example, what he said about Honduras in the recent debates. He spoke in overtly general terms, that there should be no involvement abroad and such. I would have agreed with Santorum more when he said Honduras came under incredible international pressure intended to force it to restore its ex-president to his former powers, and consequently Honduras came off greatly disillusioned. I too believe believe Honduras deserved more credit than this. Its ex-president wanted to overhaul the whole system granting himself extraordinary powers, and the action against him was sanctioned by Honduran courts and supported by a significant majority of the citizens.

Moreover, you gotta love the style how the said leader was expelled, in his pajamas kicked on a plane. This was a carbon-copy reinactment of how an unpopular Spanish viceroy was once yanked out of his mansion in Peru by Almagro and his supporters. Overall though, Paul is right to say there's too much global policing going on. He's wrong on other things. What ever. Take your pick. I just get a kick when ever I can.

 

Actually, it does because thanks to our wonderful democratic system, we only have five choices.

What's your prescription for Paul to pass good legislation in a Congress that only allows the passage of bad legislation? Give his granddaughter's hand in marriage to the Speaker of the House?

Dismal failure? He received a higher percent of the vote tonight than in any one of these contests so far. And since they are not bound by the caucus results, he may end up with the highest number of delegates in the end.

 

Apropos. Between Santorum and Paul, if they went head to head, Santorum would go down. Santorum looks like he's been hatched out of an egg just yesterday and would be lost without his advisors. If he wins the next three primaries and carries on this momentum, it will be fun to watch another teleprompter president.

 

Ah, so sad

Ron did not do so well again last night. How many delegates has he racked up thus far? Has be broke the TEN barrier yet?

That will happen to a candidate that blames America for 9/11

 

Hah, a lot over over 24 year olds don't have a clue either. Including you. What makes you so smart? Experience doesn't always equal smart or informed. There are plenty of informed, intelligent, 18 to 24 year olds that are better off than their older, usually over 40 counterparts, and they haven't been rotted by the system.

For as great and wise as you older folks claim to be, you sure did a good job (*)(*)(*)(*)ing this country up.......and the youth have to clean this mess up. And that starts by electing Dr. Paul, who may be an old man, but has young ideas, the same as the under 30 crowd.

And someone as wise as you should know why Paul never "got the job done." It's because congress and American politics in general is bought and beyond corrupt.

 

That room usually holds a lot of 18-29 year olds, the young people that will have to clean up the older generations mess.

 

Or they are watching something more exciting

Like a fly going up the drape in the next room

 

Lame...

Funny how you are still evading the question I asked you....

 

The unevasive answer "War, war, war! Make good television! Scary muslims under me bed. Ron Paul talk funny, use big words, no want big strong bombings make me feel like a man!!"

 

Keep chugging the Kool-Aid.

Ahhh Yes, the Paulobot solution, 535 Congresspeople sitting in Congress for 30 years doing nothing.

Do NO Paulobots know how our government is designed to work? Compromise is how it is designed to work. NOT rigid ideological stances that accomplish nothing.

Actually Congress IS following Paul's lead right now. Locked into ideologically rigid positions, left or right, and accomplishing NOTHING. Nothing for the left, nothing for the right, nothing for the nation. EXACTLY following the blueprint of Paul's entire career.

Paul got his ass handed to him last night by Santorum.

 

There...fixed that for you...

Santorum is just on a brief high...it won't make it past Super Tuesday...

 

OK, Santorum on a brief high. Paul on an ever present consistent low.

 

Winner needs over 1100 delegates. Nobody has even a hundred yet.

 

Paul over-generalizes way too much while Sanctorum thinks he's in a Bible study class all the time or at one of Dubya's hawkish briefing meetings.

 

A consistent low huh...funny how he moved up to 2nd in the national GOP poll by Reuters and is STILL the 2nd most likely candidate to beat Obama...

 

You keep dodging the fact that the choice you're imposing is between no accomplishments and bad accomplishments. Santorum may have beaten Paul (and Gingrich and Romney) but his record is that of supporting bad legislation. You're arguing that bad legislation is vastly preferable to no legislation. That's like arguing you'd prefer voting for Hitler over a mannequin. After all, Hitler had many "accomplishments." He was a very successful politician. And yet, for just that reason, I'd vote for the mannequin, to keep Hitler out of power.

Similarly, I'd also vote for a mannequin to keep Romney, Obama, Santorum, and Gingrich out of power. And Ron Paul is far better than a mannequin.

Since you absolutely insist upon the passage of legislation (ANY legislation!) being the litmus test, Ron Paul has passed successful legislation. His greatest achievement in that area was the partial audit of the Federal Reserve, allowing us to see the trillions of dollars they're doling out to foreign banks. In addition, per Wikipedia, "by amending other legislation, he has helped prohibit funding for national identification numbers, funding for federal teacher certification, International Criminal Court jurisdiction over the U.S. military, American participation with any U.N. global tax, and surveillance of peaceful First Amendment activities by citizens." In 1982, he and Jesse Helms established the U.S. Gold Commission. He has almost single-handedly made the activity of the Federal Reserve a prominent political issue, helped elect numerous other pro-liberty politicians including his son, and converted more people to a philosophy of individual liberty that perhaps any other person in history, including such figures as Ayn Rand. That sounds pretty accomplished to me.

But the truth is, I think you're just using this as an excuse to oppose Ron Paul. You're real reasons probably have more to do with a craving for perpetual war in the Middle East than anything else.

Any sane person would call that 30 great years. Supporting an energetic Congress is like supporting an energetic volcano. "No man's life, liberty or property are safe while the Legislature is in session."

 

What you call bad accomplishments is your OPINION. And being a businessman, the difference between bad accomplishments and no accomplishments is moot. Both will put one OOB.

Congress IS crap right now. There is NOTHING that Paul has EVER shown in 30 years that indicates any ability to change that. NOTHING!

You may have a negative opinion of the others, but they all are much more likely to work within the system to effect changes. That is not saying thay are VERY likely to change things, just much more likely to do so than Paul. He has proven over decades, he cannot.

And philosophic discussion about the system being broken are the bailiwick of the young and idealistic. The system is the system. Paul is not going to change it.

And bad accomplishments? Like leading the entire world out of poverty? The US did that years ago using the same system as today.
Protecting the entire world from madmen. The system has done that for more than a hundred years.
Introducing Freedom to the world, the system did that too.

Have there been rough patches? Yes, we're in one now. The present administration is ideologically locked in to one idea, Big Government.
Paul has been part of that system for 3 decades. How does he get a pass?

 

LATEST DELEGATE COUNT

ROMNEY 107

SANTORUM 45

GINGRICH 32

PAUL 9

http://projects.wsj.com/campaign2012/delegates


Next up, Maine Caucus, Feb. 11: 24 delegates

 

Paul is the only chance America has got. If he doesn't get the nomination, the only options will be Obama or Obama lite/Bush the Third Mitt Romney.

There is no winning with that line up. Either way will only lead to the destruction of America.

 

Sounds like something Ron Paul would say.

 

lol I like how different news outlets have different delegate counts. Moreover a lot of these are uncommitted.

Cnn http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/primaries.html
ROMNEY 115

SANTORUM 34

GINGRICH 38

PAUL 20

Truth is at least 4 of the states will not chose thier delegates till later. So really nobody has gotten a 100 yet.