White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Nazis very clearly based their nationalism on ethnicity. Being German was a matter of "blut" to them and remains that to Nazis to this day Poles and Ukrainians are Slavs, and untermensch by Nazi definition

    What does it matter how you define your race anyway? Racism is racism
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Only because he's quoting you.
     
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    Can you actually listen to the “commentary” on MSNBC/CNN with a straight face ???
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Can you listen to FAUX? I don't find it at all funny because I know how many rightists believe it
     
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    The difference is that I’ve seen MSNBC/CNN. How anyone can actually buy in to the BS they spew is breathtaking.

    What shows have you watched on Fox News ??
     
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    I like the American News TV-supply better than the one that we have here in Sweden where the only one broadcasting TV news is State Television who are hiding under the cape of "unbiased objectivity", but who are actually blatantly and cringeworthily Leftist.

    In America, they have stations that are open with their leanings and you can pick and choose the one that best falls in line with your worldview. From the little that I have seen, Fox is not really that terrible when compared to the tardstorms broadcasted by CNN and MSNBC.
     
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    There should be penalities for employers who KNOWINGLY hire illegal workers

    And detention and immediate deportation for the workers and other illegals in their family

    For employers first offense deserves a warning

    After that fines that really hurt

    How much?

    I dont know

    but enough to make it necessary for them to hire legal workers in the future
     
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    Now you are just babbling globalist bs

    Because you are talking about Americans who were born here

    And many of whom it may surprise you to learn are minorities instead of the whites you have pictured in your mind

    As for exploiting the illegal alien workers dont let it trouble you

    We will deport them back to where they belong and the exploitation will cease
     
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    I think its possible to be sensible about foreign workers

    If we seal the border then individuals from mexico could be allowed to work in the agriculture sector on a seasonable basis

    They would not be allowed to bring the family or take up residence

    Of course you just want to bloviate and rail against trump

    But why not kick able bodied people off welfare and force them to work like everyone else?
     
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    In the early years of industrailation America needed strong backs to operate the factories

    But those factories are gone

    We dont need more poor and uneducated workers in America than we already have
     
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    Fox has both news shows broadcast during the day and opinion shows st night. They always have open invitations to Democrats and progressives and have both the left and right represented on the various panels which discuss daily events. Most of the criticism of Fox News comes from people who have never watched Fox News.
     
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    Obviously his base does. So again if I said that your family has rapists and criminals, it wouldn’t affect how people saw them?? Well not all of them are rapists and criminals.....What is so sad is that you don’t understand propaganda and how to plant the seed.
    I bet you believe that he built the wall. I bet you believe he gave the largest tax cut in history,I bet you believe the economy is the best in history....he knows his base believes anything.
    I’m sure your response is going to be all we know that he didn’t really build the wall, we know he didn’t really give the largest tax cut, we know that the economy has been better. Trump sure knows his base.He said they would defend him no matter what and that’s why he talks to them like they are idiots
     
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    I notice you don’t show the “limited knowledge” you keep repeating over and over that it is not what he said and yet when challenged all you do is personally attack. I’m sure you could think of some cute insult like trump does when he loses an argument
     
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    So why do they employ them? Oh wait, it’s ok to defend the exploiters but the hell with the exploited
     
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    Wow, bigot much?
     
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    When you have 5 shoeless mexicans trying go fill one low end job they are exploiting themselves

    Deportation is doing them a favor
     
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    I responded to someone who called it that. Define it as you like but I think nationalism is a positive characteristic for everyone. So perhaps you should find different terminology.
     
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    No, I just disagree completely with your definition. I'm not a racist so I don't find it in every term.
     
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    Dont take Alex’ defination of white nationalism

    He does know what he’s talking about
     
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    There you go again. More dishonesty about the totality of what he has said.
     
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    I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    The CNN/MSNBC talking heads find racism in every syllable.
     
  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Don't sidestep. My question was why do you call it WHITE nationalism? You're not really supposed to use an adjective that isn't entirely necessary with something so heavily charged.

    Patriotism is generally good but nationalism is neutral at best. Refer to deGaulle
     
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  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Or could be it's not the Station that's biased.
     
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    It is impossible not to be biased.
     

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