White nationalism is NOT white supremacism.

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    And American nationalists are black, white, brown, pink, purple, yellow, .... Color is irrelevant. That was MLK Jr.'s dream.
     
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    The NZ shooter denounced Trump. He is an environmental radical and wanted to spur the NZ government to ban guns. The El Paso shooter endorsed the NZ shooters "Manifesto".

    I have not found a copy of the entire document online.
     
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    Correct. MLK and Malcolm X were American nationalists.
     
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    Please share your sources with links so we can all look into this.
    120K is still a very small politically marginal group, but it is far more than I would have expected - and disturbing.
     
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    Just Google "Don Black and white nationalism". Lots of links and you can chose the ones you are comfortable with as sources.
     
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    I doubt that today's nationalists would have been MLK's dream.
     
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    MLK Jr.'s dream was that people not be judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character. Claiming that a nationalist who is white is a racial supremacist is contradictory to that dream.
     
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    Again your claiming that Don Black and the 5,000 KKK members are the tail that's wagging the progressive dog. That doesn't say much for the intellectual integrity of the progressive liberals.
     
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    Yes. Malcolm X has actually been described as a "black nationalist." Black nationalism traces back to the early 1800's. But again an American who is black and a nationalist is not tantamount to being a black supremacist as the progressives would have us believe. They have perverted the meaning of words to conform to their agenda claiming that the KKK's attempt to tone down their disgusting premise for existence as an organization proves that a nationalist who is white is a racist. Amazing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_nationalism
     
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    In which iteration of your imagination is suggesting an actual policy position which might be able to address a real world situation with an actual solution just "bloviating" against Trump.

    Oh! Don't get me wrong I could happily bloviate against the greasy orange one all day long but some of us can walk and chew gum.

    Because it's not that simple. If it was it would have been done already. A lot of people receiving welfare actually do work. Some employers have even been known to encourage their workers to claim welfare to supplement their income.
     
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    It was done in 1996 by Bill Clinton of all people. Hundreds of thousands of people went to work instead of relying on welfare for their only means of support..
     
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    Like I said, a lot of people on welfare do work.
     
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    But it is much much better to have people working to learn job skills, cooperation, communication, responsibility, and to be on a career path whilst receiving public safety net assistance if they qualify. As the person develops their human capital and advances up the wage scale. Human dignity is dependent on productive work. MLK Jr. said that if one is a street sweeper be the best street sweeper you can be.
     
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    Malcolm knew that the USG was the problem. Black Americans were enslaved here, and it took a horrific Civil War to free them. The post war Republicans lacked the will to press home the victory and Reconstruction failed. This failure of will has allowed the DP to systematically oppress and decimate black Americans for another century. The American dream has been a nightmare for generations of black Americans.

    Nevertheless, Malcolm X was very fond of the fundamental freedoms the Founders tried to keep out of the reach from the long arm of the USG and its laws.

    “‘A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’ Negroes don't realize this, that they are within their constitutional rights to own a rifle, to own a shotgun. When the bigoted white supremacists realize that they are dealing with Negroes who are ready to give their own lives in defense of life and property, then these bigoted Whites will change their whole strategy and their whole attitude.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992. p. 11.
     
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    Yes, blacks were very appreciative of the 2nd amendment right after the civil war. They were also the driving force behind the very stiff penalties for crack cocaine because it was decimating their neighborhoods and the Clinton Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 again because black criminals were destroying their neighborhoods. Today's so-called well educated progressives are never taught the lessons of history.
     
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    When you find important data like that try to save it. I will research it when I have the time.

    Would like to know how he he has changed his pitch to attract so many people, and if the numbers are legitimate.
     
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    Black people created that term so?
     
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    Are there black progressives ??
     
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    An armed citizenry is far more effective than a professional police force when it comes to keeping the peace. See Baltimore.

    "Around the same time, the death threats started. The main targets were Williams and Dr. Perry. Williams began wearing a colt .45 caliber automatic pistol wherever he went. The gun was familiar, identical to the US Model 1911 sideArm. Surplus Colts were widely available in the civilian market and sometimes sold through the US government's Civilian Marksmanship Program, administered by the National Rifle Association, which Williams promptly joined. Williams Carried the big gun in a hip holster, "cocked and locked", the hammer clicked back (some would say menacingly), so with a quick swipe of thumb safety, the gun Would fire eight fat 230 grain slugs as fast as he could press the trigger."

    Negroes And The Gun, The Black Tradition of Arms, Nicholas Johnson, Prometheus Books, Amherst New York, 2014, p. 21.
     
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    ”Terrible things are happening outside… poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”

    Anne Frank

    Whatever Trump accomplishes in 100 years he will be known as the president who took children away from their parents and locked them in cages.
     
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    Obama did the same. Would you want the kids in jail with their parents ???
     
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    It's not a matter of what I want.

    It is what it is and will be what it will be.

    Is Hitler known for the autobahn or the holocaust???
     
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    Obama did not do the same. People still fall for this? No, under the Obama administration this kind of separation was only for very specific situations, such as when the parents posed a danger to their children. Trump made it policy. In all cases. Then lied about it. While also talking about how it was needed. Because he couldn't decide whether he wanted to take credit for ending the policy (even though his administration was the one who actually started it as a policy) or take credit for ending it (while crossing his fingers that useful idiots wouldn't realize he was taking credit for ending a policy that he started). So he did both. This is what happens when we have an empty suit in the oval office.
     
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    Trump is Hitler. That’s what the well educated progressive believes. Hilarious.
     
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    So what did Obama do whilst it was determined whether the kids were actually the biological parents ??? What did Obama do with the kids while these adults were in jail ???
     

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