White Supremacist Publications Stronger Than Ever

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  1. BobbyJoe

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    People here always pretend like these people don't exist. So how come these publications are more popular than ever? And the basic premise and viewpoints are shared here daily...from the right and Trump supporters.

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/sto...ville-daily-stormer-racism-white-supremacists

    White supremacist publications took a hit after Charlottesville. Now they’re stronger than ever
    After the 2017 “Unite the Right” gathering in Charlottesville, Va., during which counter-protester Heather Heyer was killed by a rally attendee, a lot of pundits predicted the demise of the alt-right movement. And for a while, it seemed as if they might be right.

    In the aftermath of Charlottesville, alt-right websites spewing white nationalist, misogynist and anti-Semitic diatribes were banned from standard internet service providers, and the de-platforming took a toll. A month before Charlottesville, the movement’s flagship website the Daily Stormer was getting about 1.9 million visits. After it was dropped by the web-hosting company GoDaddy, traffic dropped dramatically, and in November 2017 the site had only 13,000 visitors. The leftist Truthout declared the alt-right movement confined “only to the back alleys of the internet,” while the Guardian concluded “the alt-right is in decline.”

    But the reversal didn’t last. In an era where the U.S. president has offered support for alt-right thinking and new communications technologies have expanded the reach of fringe ideas, the movement quickly sprang back. The alt-right’s web audience is now significantly larger than it was before its supposed Waterloo at Charlottesville, and the Daily Stormer and other publications have found new web platforms from which to broadcast their hate-filled messages.

    Some examples: On July 22, after Trump’s excoriation of four nonwhite congresswomen, Andrew Anglin, editor of the Daily Stormer, wrote, “Jews should be apologizing to America right along with the anti-white Hate Squad and then we should send them all back. … I am really, really tired of the Jews, and I think they need to pay the ultimate price.” The Daily Stormer now refers to itself as “the most censored publication in history.”


    The editor of Occidental Dissent, Hunter Wallace, is a neo-Confederate who rejects the present-day, multi-racial America. On June 22, he argued that “the culture we have now is in an advanced state of degeneration and that the root cause of it is the liberal order. … We will be much stronger after reorienting the Right around the authoritarian axis. … The Confederates realized this in the 1860s and their solution was to decouple their constitutional republic from the leveling abstract ideology of liberal democracy.”

    Gregory Hood, once a contributor to Counter-Currents Publishing and now to American Renaissance, celebrates a lily-white America. On July 10, 2018, he wrote: “The Declaration of Independence really was by whites and for whites, as was the nation it created. ... America [is] increasingly being filled with people who have no connection to the historic American nation. … It may be time to become ‘separate and equal’ in a society that is ours alone.”

    Before Charlottesville, I had gathered data on visits to 10 “leading” alt-right web magazines, using the digital analytics firm SimilarWeb. From October 2015 to July 2017, the average number of visits per month to all 10 sites combined rose from about 1.6 million to 4.5 million visits. In recent months, between March and May of this year, the average number of visits to the sites was 6.6 million. That means visits to these sites are up by about 47% since just before Charlottesville. If you add in the full array of Nazi, white nationalist, anti-Semitic and other hate-spewing sites, the number rises sharply to a monthly average of about 45.3 million visits. By comparison, the grand old platform of mainstream conservativism, National Review, gets about 10.4 million visits per month.

    And web magazines are not the only online outlets for illiberal ideas and hate. The infamous message board where the El Paso shooter posted his alt-right screed, 8chan, had an average of 15.4 million visits between April and June of this year.



    More alarming still is the penetration into mainstream discourse of alt-right ideology, including ideas of an immigrant “invasion” and the notion that white people are being “replaced” by nonwhite people. These themes are prominent not only in the El Paso shooter’s manifesto but also in the writings of Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin, all of whom appear regularly in the alt-right web magazine VDARE. Tucker Carlson of Fox News is viewed by Daily Stormer editor Anglin as “literally our greatest ally.” Anglin describes Carlson’s program as “basically ‘Daily Stormer: The Show.’” And then, of course, there is the nation’s most prominent mainstream proponent of alt-right themes: President Trump.

    Without intervention, the alt-right will continue to endure and grow, with predictable violent results. Rebutting the rising tide of illiberalism requires not simply a technological fix, but an intellectual and political response. Certainly, cesspools of hate such as 8chan must be shut down — for good, this time. But we also need, in the short term, sharp but civil rebuttal of alt-right ideologies from influential Americans. Longer-term, and more importantly, we need much better civic education and a government that can effectively address the economic and social issues that underlie alt-right support.
     
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    Either that or we could start controlling the borders and deport the illegals.
     
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    I suspect statements like that are what constitutes "White Supremacist Publications" these days.
     
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    Maybe because your definition of the term is very different from the definition other people typically have.

    Thus the issue almost becomes one more about semantics than about the existence of something everyone actually has the same definition of.
     
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    BOOO! Lol.
    Do you peek out from your internet cell at night looking for white hoods and torches?
     
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    You start off with a strawman

    "People here always pretend like these people don't exist"

    I've not seen anyone do that, they just (correctly) point out, they are a tiny number and are not hiding around every corner.
     
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    Is that defined as anyone who doesn't want to let illegal undocumented migrants in?
     
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    Wishing to secure the border has nothing to do with so-called white supremacy. And again El Paso was not a white supremacist. He was, in the main, an environmental wacko and said so. Only one paragraph in his six page manifesto sounded even vaguely white supremacist.The rest of that excuse to kill was environmental claptrap/
     
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    Well the points the same...

    it is shrugged off, just as you all are doing immediately...

    Why always shrugging this off?

    It makes no sense.

    The right are not the type to shrug off people they don't like or don't approve of.
     
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    Well actually it means these days anyone who doesn't agree with leftists about pretty much anything, especially when said leftist are afraid they are losing the argument. Then it works pretty much like a nervous tic. The more desperate they get the more likely they are to yell racist at their opponent who ever it may be. Hence we now have AOC on record calling the Democratic speaker of the house a racist.
     
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    You all are trying real hard to change the subject.

    How come?
     
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    Are the strawman goal posts heavy?
    Yes, they exist, the same as they always have...a tiny fraction of morons, turn off CNN. There is no epidemic.
     
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    I saw an article saying that white supremacist were increasingly supporting Andrew Yang. That tells me that your definition of what a white suptemacist is is hopelessly skewed.

    With new liberal definition, Neil Degrasse Tyson and Andrew Yang are white supremacists.
     
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    The subject is the growing of publications like The Daily Stormer.

    Did you all read the article?

    What you all are doing is exactly what I'm talking about.

    Frickin hilarious.

    Why do you all suppose sites like that are growing?

    And why don't you care?

    The answer is, once again, obvious.
     
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    The radical progressive faction is no longer afraid of crying wolf because the wolves as a species are nearly extinct.
     
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    You all going to dodge post after post?

    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
     
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    Utter nonsense. Wray said that there were 100 acts of domestic terrorism more than half were done by so-called white supremacists. And many of those were cases of vandalism. So basically domestic Terrorism right or left is a rarity. Further based on the treatment of El Paso dude one suspects most of the so-called white supremacist perpetrators.are misidentified as such.
     
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    Sorry I'm not trying to change subject merely pointing that the rate at which the left misidentifies white supremacist is largely a function of a tendency to view almost any opposition at all as racist white supremacist or whatever today's dog whistle might be. In other words at least half the websites he identifies as White supremacist are not.
     
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    These publications are growing because white people are unhappy that the country is filling up with foreigners with a different culture and a different language.

    How do you propose to change their minds?
     
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    We have a number of posters who pretend those people do not exist, yes.
     
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    They exist. Just not enough to be a problem. There are more Muslim terrorists in the US loyal to Obama than there arw white supremacists.
     
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    Nothing exists in a vacuum, so if there's an uptick in white nationalist, neo nazis, etc... there's probably a reason.

    I'd venture and guess it has something to do with the fact that Western nations are being inundated with foreigners, and a non-stop flow of criticism aimed at whites in general, coming from academia and progressive msm primarily.

    I'll wager that you could attempt to replicate these sorts of conditions anywhere in the world and generate similar results, if not worse.
     
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    No one is trying to change the topic.It"s pretty simple..A comfortable majority of the U.S public does not trust the liberal propagnda spewed via media outlets under their control so people search for altetnative sources.They have no choice.Especially people who attend Trumo's ralies.They see one thing at the rally and then they see the twisted reality the liberal media present.It's hard to believe that all those so called experts, pundits and other priveliged idiots employed by ABC, CNN, MSBCN, the NY, the WP etc...haven't learned anything since 2016.
     
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    Is posting the entire OP in enlarged and bolded text, a cry for relevancy?
     
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    Wondered that myself. Isn't it a rule violation to post an entire article? Could be wrong...
     
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