White supremacy a 'transnational threat', U.N. chief warns

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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you say so. I, on the other hand, would start by looking at the behavior of people who manage to have stellar records of nonviolence despite those factors.

    I think you would find there are quite a few different solutions; as different, in fact, as the number of people you surveyed.

    I suppose you're looking for an easy one size fits all answer though. You strike me as that kind of guy.
     
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    No, LangleyMan, facts obviously do not matter one damn bit! Pres Trump was just impeached for inciting an 'insurrection' . Problem is he did nothing of the sort, angry trolls just said he did. In fact his own words, which were selectively edited out when replayed during shampeachment #2, explicitly and repeatedly spoke to the opposite of violence; "peacefully" "go home" "obey law enforcement" "respect law & order" and so on.

    Plus that 'insurrection' was anything but. Over 150,000 people showed up to protest and while their goals were stupid and moronic and based on nothing but a fool's frenzy (just like BLM btw) they still had every right to assemble peacefully which all about about 50-75 or whatever did. And what of that small group of 'insurrectionists' huh? What did they do? Walked into a building they shouldn't have been in, broke a couple doors, stole some token souvenirs, stood around and snapped selfies. Compare that to the nearly decades long rampage of leftist political terrorism resulting hundreds of billions of dollars in damage, thousands of serious injuries, over a dozen deaths, entire city blocks including one police station held by make-shift armies, bombings of one federal building and several dozen cars, a firebombing of at least one officer's home, chemical attacks, blindings, hate crimes on Jews trans people elderly and even freakin children, and that isn't even the whole story.

    But oh no, "BLM don't organize violent protests" even though every time they call people together a riot happens. Its funny, something minor happens one time out of the hundreds of times Pres Trump has drawn massive crowds and people go full retard saying his 'angry rhetoric caused it to happen'. BLM has held hundreds of events too, filled to the brim withuber-angry rhetoric "burn it down" "pigs in blanket fry um like bacon" "**** the police" "whos streets our streets" etc, etc, etc, etc, and even though violent riots are spawned out of nearly every one of those gatherings none of the BLMers are ever to blame. Huh, hmm, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, so interesting.
     
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    Well it appears March 4th came and went without a whimper. Now they're talking about leaving them there till the fall. Seems more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
     
  4. Richard Franks

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    The goal of the white supremacy groups are to kill off all the non-white minority races which would include their existences and history and evidence that they ever existed. As a result of all this they would want a 100% white America.
     
  5. a better world

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    ...while living in, and surrounded by poverty, unemployment, violence and crime? Yes, looking at such "stellar"individuals might be informative, in many ways.

    "solutions" ......including locking up those who don't behave well in ghettos, which is a cause of the high incarceration rates among blacks?

    Yes, eg, via an above-poverty Job Guarantee.

    OTOH, you will likely be 'shot in the cross-fire' (in ghetto violence) before you can discover why some individuals display "stellar behavior" in the ghettos.
     
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    And what happened?
     
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    I despise white supremacy but that sounds like complete fiction.
     
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    If that's the goal of white supremacists, they're doing it all wrong.

    The minorities are killing each other by a ratio of about 1000:1 Vs. the white supremacists. When it comes to gunning down minorities, the white supremacists are rank amateurs.

    That's if you're talking about like with bullets.

    If you're talking about the McDonald's Dollar Menu, then yeah, white supremacy is slaughtering the minorities in that regard.

    But, minority populations are growing faster than the white population, so the white supremacists are still dropping the genocide ball bigly.
     
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    Trump provided encouragement for these maggots...

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    A few words don't make up for thousands of words to the contrary.
    BLM organize peaceful protests. They can be criticized, IMO, for not making a greater effort to keep the peace after their protests are completed.
    More than a hundred police officers were injured.
    There is plenty of rightwing violence over many decades. All of these jokers on both ends of the political spectrum should be prosecuted, and no one should excuse any of it, ever.
    No, you're flat wrong. The vast majority of BLM protests, including the hours after they're finished, are peaceful.
     
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    No they are not. BLM rioters are violent.
     
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    How did the BLM protests manage to do billions of dollars in damage if the vast majority of them were peaceful?

    How many billions of dollars in damage would have to be done before you'd concede that protests aren't all that peaceful? Can you put a figure on it? $2 billion? $10 billion? $Eleventy kajillion?

    In comparison, what would you say tend to be more peaceful? Right wing protests, or left wing protests?
     
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    Peaceful looting.....lolz!
     
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    Maybe you know something I don't
     
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    In know that minority populations are growing faster than the white population.

    In case you're not aware, that's the opposite of the sort of genocide you're suggesting is happening.
     
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  15. Steve N

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    Facts don't matter to you.

    "The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new reportpublished Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

    The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22."

    https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/
     
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    The facts:

    "The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published Thursday by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

    The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22."

    https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/

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    https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/...LED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF_HiRes.pdf
    Who cares? Rioters should be arrested, prosecuted, hopefully convicted, and jailed.
     
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    All that peacefulness, and yet they still managed to do billions of dollars worth of damage.

    How many billions worth of damage before you'll consider it a problem?
    Then you must be furious about all the left wing rioters who did billions of dollars worth of damage, but were let go scott free after they breezed through the revolving door of Dem-run court systems, right?

    Tell us exactly how mad that makes you.
     
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    No attack. Maybe the 'patriots' got smart this time, and realized the nation's security forces are hyper-vigilant at the moment...
     
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    Does this mean you concede that most BLM protests are peaceful?
    Democrats don't run the court system.

    The solution is to arrest and prosecute anyone engaged in violent protests, looting, or arson.
    Not my issue. Just lock them up.
     
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    As are Right wing protests. Mostly peaceful. The difference is they don’t kill nearly as many people or cause as much damage. Kind of like the Tea Party and OWS. Leftists are always far more violent, kill more people and cause more destruction.
     
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    Far-Right Groups Are Behind Most U.S. Terrorist Attacks, Report Finds - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    "The report, published Thursday by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, found that white supremacist groups were responsible for 41 of 61 “terrorist plots and attacks” in the first eight months of this year, or 67 percent".

    The report said that “far-left and far-right violence was deeply intertwined” and that far-left groups, including anarchists and antifascist organizations, were responsible for 12 attacks and plots so far this year, or 20 percent of the total number, up from 8 percent in 2019."

    I think you are confusing the public protests which turned into riots in the US, during last year's global BLM protests, which are different to individual plots and attacks organized by ideology-driven actors.

    Ie, those public riots associated with the BLM protests are a different beast to the "plots and attacks", for which left groups were responsible in 20% of cases. Guess who were responsible for the other 80%?





     
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    The NY Times? Hahaha! What does the Onion have to say about it?
     
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    What's the relevance of the number of "plots and attacks"? Why should we care how many there were?

    Shouldn't the primary concern be focusing on the number of lives lost, people assaulted, and damage done?

    The left wing rioters are far more violent and destructive, and they've done far more damage during BLM protests than the white supremacists have done in their "plots and attacks". Left wingers are clearly the more destructive of the two "different beasts".

    Is that not an accurate statement?





     
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    Yes, I do, but it's basically irrelevant, because they were still violent enough to do billions of dollars worth of damage.

    Will you concede the simple fact that the BLM riots did billions of dollars worth of damage?
     
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