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Who did it? Nordstream 1 & 2

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by UntilNextTime, Oct 17, 2022.

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Swedish investigators have concluded their findings on who sabotaged the pipes. As some have pointed out and many will disagree vehemently, it will not sit well on the pallet of those.

    Play this one 1st, for dramatic effect.


     
    UntilNextTime, Oct 17, 2022
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    Who watches this crap?
     
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  3. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    We know one who doesn't. Afraid of a bit of truth are we, a bit hard to swallow?
     
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    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    We know where you get your "facts".

    But the guy doesn't say anything really unique.
     
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  5. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Why, because it doesn't come from CNN?:applause::applause::applause::applause: Keep it coming.
     
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    No, because the implication that the US might be behind it is not that fantastic an idea.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    To some on this forum, it is a big deal. As soon as the news got out about the pipes blowing up, what B1 and B2 (Biden and Blinken) have said in the past, it didn't take much effort to work out who was the culprit. Who benefits from it was the first and foremost clue.
     
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    Lucifer, Oct 17, 2022
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    From your Forbes link.

    "Last month, multiple leaks were reported on the critical Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines. Both NATO and the European Union have said they believe the leaks were an act of sabotage and threatened a “robust and united response” in case there were more such incidents. In a more direct statement, Biden said the leaks were a “deliberate act of sabotage” by the Russians. The Kremlin, however, has strongly denied its involvement calling the incident an act of state-sponsored “terrorism.” Nord Stream 1 is a critical pipeline for Europe but Russia had already suspended all supplies through it—blaming maintenance issues caused by Western sanctions against Russia. Nord Stream 2 has never been operational as its approval was halted by Germany in February as Russia mobilized its troops along the Ukraine border.

    Despite denying its involvement, Russian state-controlled TV has tried to fan the conspiracy theory that the Biden administration is behind the purported sabotage. The same conspiracy theory has also widely circulated among right-wing U.S. commentators including Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who claimed on his show that Russia would in no way benefit from such sabotage. Carlson, whose primetime segment was repeatedly shown on Russian television last week, insinuated without evidence the Biden administration may have been behind the destruction of the pipeline adding that “it would be totally consistent with what they do.” Since then other prominent right-wing commentators like Dan Bongino and Charlie Kirk have boosted the same conspiracy theory."

    Apparently, this things been leaking for quite awhile, and people were warned about it. Not only that, the US issued warnings about such a catastrophe months before it happened.
     
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    Dude, this is why we have paid professionals who study these situations and report to the president. It's fair to assume there's plenty of Top Secret and beyond info involved.

    As for the Forumites, there are plenty of them that like to set their hair on fire. Are you one of them?
     
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    The thing is, Sweden could end all of this by releasing the information(the possibility also exists that the Swedes themselves blew it up.) I do agree with the video that for Sweden, if it were Russia they'd be touting the horns but instead they want this intel concealed by the fog of war. On the Russian side, those statements made by Biden and Nuland aren't edited. They're real, actual statements. The possibility is real that the Russians could hold onto those and act on them, without clear evidence showing that no, we aren't involved.

    So we should pressure the Swedes to cooperate and release the full findings, or otherwise be expelled from NATO(and whose party NATO shouldn't have accepted to begin with.)
     
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    I dont see the benefit in pressuring someone to do what they are doing anyway.
     
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    So swedens investigative teams are lying and it wasn’t sabotage?
     
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    Please share with us these warnings of an impending catastrophe of the pipe line blowing up...
     
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    Whats the point, you wont believe it. Lets do this Joker style, since you cant seem to manage a search engine. "Never do chores for free"
    I give you the cnn link "whoops gave it away" You accept it. Deal?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    If speculation is lying in your opinion...Yea?
     
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    Your post, your claim.... I ain't your "Google boy"..... I ask again... Please share with us these warnings of an impending catastrophe of the pipe line blowing up...
     
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    Wait for it....
     
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    No.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    And what does this tell you? Can you guess, or would you like for me to explain it? Inconsistency with the narratives by LSM.
     
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    Ahh, so you're intimidated by critical thinkers, people who can use it and common sense to work sh!t out, is that where this is going?
     
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    Vernan89188, Oct 18, 2022
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    Logically, many things sugest the US as the culprit, but we have no evidence.
    Also, everything suggests that Trump colluded with Russia, but we have no evidence.
     
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    Nice try with your pay site..... If folks dumb enough to pay for the garbage so be it... try this if you ain't going to subscribe..
    https://archive.ph/V3jar#selection-1427.0-1433.12

    Post # 10..... ""Not only that, the US issued warnings about such a catastrophe months before it happened.""

    your article....

    ""The CIA warned Germany weeks ago about a possible attack on the Nord Stream natural-gas pipelines""

    wait for it ...............................................
    ""    sources told Der Spiegel.""

    the liberal folks can not provide any credible journalism from credible sources... your special link is a joke and does not even comes close to proving the US issued warnings about such a catastrophe months before it happened...
     
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