Who Is Most Responsible for the SUCCESS of the Christian Religion?

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Who Is Most Responsible for the SUCCESS of the Christian Religion?

Poll closed May 7, 2021.
  1. Jesus

    6 vote(s)
    37.5%
  2. Paul

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. Constantine

    8 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Tosca1

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    I missed the poll date - but of course........... JESUS.
    That's the only answer. Why?
    Without Jesus, there is no Christianity.

    And, without Christianity - the question becomes moot.
     
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    But we already know that it is impossible for God to die.
    That is just a sob story used by the church to get contributions.
     
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    The soul of Jesus never died. He incarnated to pay the price for the sin of the world. https://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/q_god_dying.htm

     
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    Reincarnation is not biblical. https://bible.org/question/what-does-bible-say-about-reincarnation

     
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    Jesus resurrected and He is alive and returning. That has nothing to do with reincarnation.
     
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    Reincarnation is the soul of a being in a different physical form or body after biological death...
    Resurrection is a similar process in which a soul comes back to life in the same body.

    According to your God...."For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands."

    Your God says you do not get to keep the same body....therefore you will be reincarnated into a new body...
     
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    Ressurection is not reincarnation. https://bible.org/question/what-does-bible-say-about-reincarnation

     
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    According to your God...."For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands."

    Your God says you do not get to keep the same body....therefore you will be reincarnated into a new body...
     
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    Reincarnation doesn't deal with the real problem of having sinned against God and the reality of Hell. And there is no evidence for this belief.
     
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    The "real problem" is that you've taken the word "sin" out of context...sin is simply "missing the mark"...making a mistake.
    Sin is NOT an attack on God as Christians make it out to be.
    And "Hell" is simply cutting yourself off from God and chasing after rainbows instead.
     
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    Sin exists for the same reason that in a society, there are laws that people follow, and there are consequences for not following them.
     
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    The devil is a deceiver. https://bible.org/question/what-does-bible-say-about-reincarnation

     
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    There is no evidence your god or hell exists.
     
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    The eye is an example of what is referred to as "irreducible complexity." It would be absolutely impossible for random processes, operating through gradual mechanisms of genetic mutation and natural selection, to be able to create forty separate subsystems when they provide no advantage to the whole until the very last state of development.
     
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    You have no science to fix basis for this silly claim
     
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    Ask yourself how the lens, the retina, the optic nerve, and all the other parts in vertebrates that play a role in seeing not only appeared from nothing, but evolved into interrelated and working parts.
     
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    Evolution
     
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    Evolutionist Robert Jastrow acknowledges that highly trained scientists could not have improved upon "blind chance", in Evolution:

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Telescope

     
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    He isn’t an evolutionist. He’s an astronomer. The eye is a result of evolution
     
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    This marvelous design occurs not just in humans, but in all the different creatures: horses, ants, dogs, whales, lions, flies, ducks, fish, etc.
     
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    You can not demonstrate your god exists, let alone designed anything. The eye is a product of evolution. This is basic biology.
     
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    Think about what the theory of evolution claims: the eyes, in working pairs, of all these creatures slowly developed over millions of years. Each of them was blind until all the parts miraculously came together and interrelated with the others, because all parts are needed for the eye to function.
     

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