Why Are Progressives Afraid....

To admit Barack Obama has betrayed the left, and was a largely failed President? I campaigned for him in 2008 when I was in college. I really believed he was going to be the change President, someone who was going to fix this corrupt system we have. Here are his actual neoliberal bonafides....

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/obama-is-a-republican/

There are many more examples, including his hiring of wall street influenced Treasury (Geithner, Yellen at the Fed, etc.) His support and push for TPP which will destroy American jobs, and his refusal to reschedule marijuana and end the drug war. He is a failure as a progressive. This is documented.

WHY is this so hard for many on the left to admit? I am an honest person and can admit when I am wrong, maybe they aren't? Now that we have an ACTUAL progressive, Bernie Sanders, the party disses and runs away from him. Unbelievable. I am SO sick of Democrats.

 

They don't want to be called what they called everyone else that did not like his policies, racist.

 

It's not racist to criticize Obama, it is racist to criticize him in a racist way. Don't they understand that?

 

You don't seem to understand, any criticism was met with the call of racism. They can no longer criticize him today than they could stop calling people racist for criticizing him in the past.

 

Perhaps in Magic Fantasy Upside Down Land, but not in reality.

 

I never saw any legitimate criticism coming at him from the right. It was all "socialist this" and "birth certificate" that.

 

Why are Conservatives so afraid to admit that Ronald Reagan sold them out...many times?

 

Wow, 3 cheers for you, at least for your candid and open comments about Obama - and coming from a Progressive, two-time voter of the President, while laying out the facts of just some of Obama's failures.

 

He did, but Obama takes the cake for exploiting his base.

 

as you know im a nationalist conservative but the globalization thing made sense in reagans time. The US didnt really have a lot of competition so we needed a market for goods. The failure of future presidents is that they didnt recognize that it didnt make sense anymore.

Things change depending on the situation. For instance if you just recently conquered the indians and half of mexico then you would call for any immigrant you could find to fill up your empty land so the policy then made sense. If you have no jobs and no real way of providing for immigrants restricting it makes sense.

 

Haha, I only voted for him once. I voted third party 2012.

 

Put your posts where your mouth is. Go ahead and post a rational valid criticism and see if any of us rational fair people accuse you of racism.


GO FOR IT!!! what do you have to lose.

 

Did, happened, guess you weren't around.

 

Actually one of the biggest criticisms of Obama from the right was the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) which was criticized as a burdensome, convoluted piece of legislation that promised things it eventually could not deliver. It had nothing to do with racism, or birth certificate. The right was correct however, that is was a socialist piece of legislation that would never work and has proven so subsequent to its passing.

 

The ACA is NOT socialist. I am a democratic socialist and I am telling you it is free market healthcare. Choose a different line of argument please, it's getting frustrating because I (and millions of others) WANT socialized healthcare.Obama did NOT deliver this to us.

 

I don't know if Obama is exceptional in that. It's common in politics to take one's base for granted. It is especially true when that base feels like any other option would be worse. All Obama did was the classic campaign from the left and govern from the right. It's common with centrist and centre-left parties. We've seen it with UK Labour, Australian Labor, New Zealand Labour and Canada's Liberal & New Democratic Parties.

Even if Mr Sanders wins, I doubt that his policies would veer off the Obama/Clinton consensus.

 

So that first term alone was enough to (*)(*)(*)(*) you off, eh?

 

As A progressive I never supported Obama as I did not like his platform of get out of Iraq and Afghanistan ASAP. Nor did I believe many of his campaign promises.

As for the democrats and Sanders, if not for the superdelegates Sanders would be giving Clinton a run for her mony. Sanders has huge support on the left that is offset by the DNC's superdelegates.

 

There is no medical free market, the government controls most of it...That's socialist.

 

I am not afraid. I said many times that he is not a president who stood up for the little guy, he rather preserved the status quo. He also didn't deserve the Nobel peace prize, because he expanded illegal drone use beyond of what GWB started. For these reasons, I threw his book in the trash, which my wife gave me as a birthday present at times when I thought Obama could bring about change.

I will, however, debate the many delusional Obama haters, who paint him as a Marxist/socialist/communist - nothing of which could be further from the truth. In reality he is a pragmatist who strayed from his ideals as quickly as he occupied the seat in the oval office.

 

The problem with members of the left and right is that they are confused about the roll of an American President ...
You are electing a President - not an Emperor.

Idiots on the Right think that Trump will be able to do anything he promises.

Idiots on the Left thinking Bernie will be able to do anything he promises.

News for you all - a President is not an Emperor. They will not be able to do what they tell you in election rhetoric.

So stop being disappointed that Obama or any other President is not the Tooth Fairy.

 

When Obama took office the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was 7.8% skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets and housing markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The deficit was running at $1.2 trillion, soon projected to hit $1.9 trillion, the housing market was destroyed, and the economy was headed straight for a depression.

But now the the private sector has added more jobs every month for a record 72 months in a row, stock markets are up about 175% from their recession lows to record highs, corporate profits have hit all time highs, we've gained back all the jobs lost in the recession and millions more, the housing market is recovered, the deficit has been cut by more two thirds, the unemployment rate has fallen from 10% to 5.0%, and over 14 million additional private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

Only those invested in failure for political purposes could say Obama is a "largely failed" president.

 

It got passed, which I think was the real goal. It will gradually evolve into a national health system.

 

It's state capitalism. Of course there is a free market. A regulated market is still "free". Like rules on the highway. I don't like the highway, but there are rules.

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Presidents are bought and sold, that's why people are getting pissed and want massive change from the traditional.

 

What has Obama done to change the system he said he was going to change? (Hint, he didn't even attempt this)

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Oh yeah, actually the first thing that tipped me off was when he invited that homophobic pastor Rick Warren to give his swearing in prayer or something. The came Geithner, and so forth.