Why are Republicans so opposed to vote by mail?

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  1. dagosa

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    There is no legitimate reason to oppose voting by mail. The opposition seems to be based purely in lies from Trump and other liars supporting him, claiming that voting by mail leads to voter fraud. This is a lie because there is no evidence to support the claim, yet these lying liars continue to tell that lie, knowing it is a lie.

    It is all especially bewildering in light of the fact that:

    Trump tried to vote with wrong address while railing against voter fraud

    Trump tried to vote with wrong address while railing against voter fraud
    Records reviewed by the Post found the president had to resubmit his application, despite railing against the vote by mail process

    Donald Trump has been railing against vote by mail for the past few months – falsely citing the potential for voter fraud, which is extremely rare. As it turns out, the president himself bungled the system.

    Trump registered to vote in Florida last September under his White House address – 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, according to the Washington Post. But Florida does not allow people to register to vote without an in-state address, and one month later, Trump resubmitted his application with a Florida address and voted in the Republican primary.

    On his registration form, Trump told Florida officials his legal residence was in Washington DC but on another day also said he was a “bona fide resident” of Palm Beach, Florida, home to his Mar-a-Lago Club, according to the public records reviewed by the Post.

    Other voters have faced significant consequences for the same mistake. In fact, as some Democrats pointed out, the same issue is listed on White House website as voter fraud.

    ... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/03/donald-trump-vote-by-mail-fraud-florida
     
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    Please look into the REAL I.D. Act and how you will not be allowed entry into federal buildings or other formerly-public areas. Its magnetic reverse-strip contains data we may not even know the contents. Once all states require a minimum of a state ID just to buy tobacco or other specified items, the list sharply narrows for those still willing to not get such a card. Passports aren't possible without positive identification. In other words this is a dead issue. They have us going in.
     
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    Last week wa the first time we sent men to outer space since Obama destroyed NASA

    https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-...ow-barack-obama-ruined-nasa-space-exploration

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/nasa/
     
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    yah....so what.
    So you don’t believe the reference ? Cause you have none.
     
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    Ha ha, private did what ? Laughable....We still funded much of it..get real. Private enterprise did no more then TESLAR which gov. co funded them with grants.
    NASA awarded a 3 billion dollar grant with tax payers money.
    https://phys.org/news/2020-05-nasa-go-ahead-crewed-spacex-flight.html

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    he government will do Mars. Space stations are for commercial now. Get real. The govt co funds or does completely EVERYTHING in space travel.
     
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    Ah cool, they are naming a space prison after him?
    Fitting
     
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    If we had Obama we would not be doing that
     
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    Obama did not do anything to stop the debt he just moved the money to his pet programs like fake global warming programs.
     
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    Same old line...
    No one can stop exponential debt increase until they get the deficit to zero. Obama dropped the deficit by 60%. Then came republicans under Trump....and it has exploded again. It gets tiresome explaining the relationship of deficit to debt. You’ll have to dig out some math books yourself. Till then, conservatives seem totally unaware. Yawn.
     
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    Global warming is real, Trumps pie in the ski space station resort is not.
    The republican party has shown no interest in deficit control, recession avoidance, science or math....just trickle down for their donors.
     
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    If we had OBama, the pandemic would be much better under control, the deficit and debt increase would be much smaller......
    and he wouldn’t embarrass himself daily like the imbecilic. Trump. The health and economic mismanagement has been a disaster under Trump. Hello ! Trump is a walking gibberish generator.
     
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    Hilarious.
     
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    Trump has been in lunar orbit since he was put in charge by a minority government.
    they need valid ID to register, just like you do for health insurance and preregistration for appointments and a gazillion other things we do daily. After that, to get the service, it’s saying name and DOB and / or address. Voter ID is another attempt to marginalize minorities and decrease voter turn out.
     
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    Bunker Baby thinks the moon is part of Planet Mars. And he’s running a space program ?
     
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    And insane.
     
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    In Michigan, they "swipe" the driver's license and this ONE SECOND PROCESS resolves all identification issues. You'll find no sympathy for those unwilling to take that same license out to vote but willingly show it to buy something. I buy a piece of America's future with MY license. I won't listen to those too lazy to do likewise, since I am not a Democrat and I like my elections honest as honest as possible. This loophole must be closed. ID or no vote.
     
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    Obama beat him to it with the lunar prison naming rights. Benghazi Arms.
     
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    Where were the leftists disagreeing NASA costs too much?

    If we want progress in space exploration, we do not need their massive waste but instead rely on private enterprise. Consider just for one example the reusable rockets NASA never truly bothered to develop. Millions wasted, every launch.

    And for real, moon tourism is not that far away, perhaps before 2050.
     
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    So, only those who’s own and drive are car are allowed to vote ? Registration takes care of you using any acceptable form of ID.
    The poor and big city dwellers and certain cultures often don’t have a drivers license. Millions have no government issued ID. It used to be a fear of the right to have govt tracking. Now, it’s ok when voter suppression is at stake. It’s an obvious discrimination tactic.
     
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    Obama doubled the debt. Or if you prefer democrats in congress did
     

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