Why Can't Any Blacks Admit To Their Racism?

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  1. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    That pretty much sums it up.
     
  2. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Crazy..........
     
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    Ridiculous group guilt and ironically anti-White.
     
  4. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Translation: I can't dispute what you said.

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    Translation: I have no response that makes sense. You are correct.
     
  5. Egalitarianjay02

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    I don't agree with this. Anyone can be racist. You don't need political power you just need to hold a racist opinion to be racist.

    A Black person can be racist. There's nothing about the origin of the word racist that implies that only someone with power can be racist.

    Now institutional racism is a unique form of racism in which you exert your political power over a group to suit a racist agenda (e.g. Jim Crow and Segregation) but the average every day person can be racist. You don't even have to hate another race to be racist. You can be a self-hating racist (e.g. The Boondocks character Uncle Ruckus).
     
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    Thanks bro.
     
  7. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Moriah, go on with yourself. You have got it going on. Such clarity was void in my life until you graced me with wisdom. Please tell me more.....


     
  8. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Anytime, Mr. Toefoot. I am always happy to enlighten the ignorant masses. Thank you for your compliment.:cheerleader:

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    I respectfully disagree.
     
  9. Egalitarianjay02

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    What is your basis for claiming you need power to be a racist? I've encountered this argument before and find it puzzling. Moreover I think it sets a bad precedent. It strikes me as a double standard. The dictionary definition of racism is to be hateful or intolerant based on race or to feel your race is superior to others. It says nothing about having power. If you look at the origin of the word it was ascribed to Nazi policies on race. Racism is simply discrimination based on race. I see no reason why a person must represent a group with power in order to exercise their racism. We can agree to disagree but I want to hear your reasoning on this.

    The other person who made this argument also argued that Racism = White Supremacy. Do you agree with this? They said that since racism is rooted in White Supremacist ideology the two are synonymous and further stated that only White people could be racist. I don't agree with this at all. I'm against all forms of racism. You don't have to be an African dictator oppressing Whites like Robert Mugabe to be a Black racist. You could be dirt poor with no power over anyone and call someone a racial slur and we can reasonably call you a racist for doing so.

    What is your reasoning for claiming that racial discrimination without power is racist?

    Why are these people not racist?

    [video=youtube;hVcfymOvoUo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcfymOvoUo[/video]
     
  10. Moriah

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    I will explain as best I can. Ever since the founding of the USA White people have been in charge. They made the political, economic and social policy. Blacks never had the power to make any decisions about anything because the first Blacks who arrived here were slaves. We know slaves don't make any policies. Whites were the ones who decided to: 1) Base slavery on skin color. 2) Make slavery a lifelong ordeal rather than a period of indenture. 3) Base a child's condition of servitude on the Mother's condition. This was done to guarantee a long line of slaves because if they had based it on the Father's condition (many times a White slave master) said child would have been free. Do you see the pattern here? Whites had the power to base their laws and customs on race. Hence, they created racism in this country.
    I see you posted a picture of a few so-called Black Panthars, talking trash. Well, talking trash and making laws are two different things. I have not seen a Black Panthar make a law yet in this country. Until they do, I wouldn't worry too much about them.
    Not to change the subject, but I believe the main reason Obama is hated so much is because he has upset the apple cart as far as power goes in the USA. No Black man is supposed to have the political power he has achieved. The Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves! Blacks were meant to be slaves only. I hope this helps to explain what I posted earlier.
     
  11. Egalitarianjay02

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    I don't disagree with anything you said about the history of slavery or even White people creating racism in America. Racism itself is largely a Western concept that began during the age of Exploration when Europeans began traveling the world conquering foreign lands and subduing the natives. Whites were racist against Africans before bringing a single one of them to America and racist against Native Americans before they enslaved a single Black person. So racism predates slavery. Racism predates laws that discriminated based on skin color. People were racist before the word racist was even coined. But I don't agree with looking at the word racist in a vacuum and only considering the progenitors of racism to be racist. It's a concept that transcends cultural barriers. Racism is discrimination based on race. Not discrimination with power, just discrimination and it's very important in my view to acknowledge racism can come from anyone. Racism can hurt anyone and White Americans are not the only people who can be racist.

    If one accepts your definition of the word than that begs the question, can Obama be racist? He is after all the President of the United States who has the power to make laws. I don't accept this definition of racism. Blacks can be racist. So can anyone else. Those New Black Panthers "talking trash" saying they want to kill White babies is disturbing because it is hateful and racist. Words have meaning and in a functioning society we should not change the meaning of words because that creates confusion. The word racist was never intended to be exclusive to White Americans or just Whites, it was originally coined to refer to Nazi policies and related policies.

    I agree with you that Whites have had power since the inception of this country and despite a Black President they still have most of the power and wealth in this country but in my opinion that has nothing to do with the word racist.

    As for Obama I am a major supporter of his and I love the fact that we have a Black President. I wish I could see the look on every White racist's face who never lived to see Obama become President and for every White racist alive today who has experienced an Obama Presidency I love to rub it in their faces every chance I get including having this awesome Obama avatar. :smile:
     
  12. Moriah

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    Egalitarianjay02, it's clear we agree on some things and we disagree on others. That's OK. I appreciate your sincerity. Hope to see you in another thread. Thank you for the conversation.
     
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    Please, tell me more about the whites and the natural state of racist and power. Is it genetic? Environment? Is it natural law? I am wondering with all the mixed marriages and culture and white mans bloodline infused with others. Does it effect other races lending them prone to being racist themselves?

    What University studies can I go online and read more about this? The same questions apply to blacks biased.


     
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    I beleive it is envoirnmental here in the USA. Racism is taught from infancy by parents and caregivers who teach the child their beliefs. When it comes to White people's bloodlines being infused with Black people's, the child will always be Black. That's the way it is in the USA, and I think in other parts of the world too. I read a book once written by a Nigerian lady who had a Black Father and White Mother and she considered herself Black.
    You need not go online to read about American racism. Just head to your local library. Here are some titles to ask for: 1) Autobiography of Malcolm X by Alex Haley with Malcolm X. 2) Black Like Me by John Howard Griffin. 3) Roots by Alex Haley.
    After you read these books ask the library if they have a copy of the documentary "Unforgivable Blackness: the Rise and Fall of Jack Johnson". This is a great film and goes a long way to show the racial attitudes in America at the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
    Please get back to me after you read these books and/or watch this film.
    P.S. You sound a tad bit angry. Please don't let anger cloud your judgement. Thank you. :smile:
     
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    Moriah, please do not waste my time and stop blowing smoke up my ass. I asked YOU some questions and wanting scientific facts.....and all you offer me is this? Not only are you insulting but you have nothing but theory.

    Theory and $5.00 gets a beer at the local pub. What a waste of time with you that I can not get back.....

    Time to go take a shower and wash away the crap you exposed me to.

     
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    Please do go take a shower; I'm sure you need one. I am merely trying to help you educate yourself. You appear pretty dense. The material I mentioned in my above post will go a long ways in educating you about the racism in America. Any adult born and raised in America knows what racism is; some folks are just in denial. So being in denial they ask dumb questions like "Is it genetic, enviornmental or by natural law?" :roflol: Have a nice day, Toefoot. Bye!:angered:
     
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    Q: Why Can't Any Blacks Admit To Their Racism?

    A: The Left won't let them. Racism is very, very important to the left.
    Without it they are doomed.
     
  18. superbadbrutha

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    Is that the reason that the Republican Party won't admit that the majority of racist in America are in their party.
     
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    Actually, IMHO, it is the victim mentality that causes the racism in blacks as they are indoctrinated by their leaders and liberals to think they are victims of white racism. The problem with that is that is while racism affects them less and less, they have become more convinced that their plight is racism instead of a poor work ethic, which is also something that is taught. You can see the difference between cultures that teach hard work can make one successful as a comparison, such as Asians and Jews.

    There are plenty of blacks that do not fall under that and have been as successful as anyone else can be.

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    Liberal claptrap. There are plenty of racists in the Democrat party from the South to the East elite liberals who espouse one thing but live another. One of my previous neighbors was a racist democrat here in the Midwest.
     
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    Sure there are racist democrats just like there are racist republicans. The more vocal and brash are in the republican party though.
     
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    The majority of racists in this country are Democrat. I know of no
    Republican in office who's racist. In fact I don't know a single Libertarian
    or Republican who's racist.
     
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    there are white people that are racist
    there are black people that are racist

    think everyone knows this
     
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    Actually, the most vocal and brash are in the South. Also, there is much inflation of racism by the left due to their obsession with race.
     
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    You must not know any Republicans.

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    ..............and what is the South? Conservative/Republican.
     
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    My PM back to you is waiting for a response. Your statement to me was that only whites can be racist and blacks can only be biased.

    Put forward any peer reviewed facts for such a claim....since you claimed it is environmental such studies should be referenced.

     

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