Why China is Rising and the US is Declining

It's not just the US who are buying Chinese.

 

Buying, that's just one of the loyalties the left devotes to them. It's the lack of respect for the dead and the willingness to demand justice for those that have died from Chinese negligence, deception and outright lies resulting from COVID.


That's a lot of death caused by a country and not a single penny of compensation to those that have lost loved ones from their negligence!!

 

Oh no, we’re not back to the belief of Covid is all China’s fault, are we? That one was doing the rounds in Europe back in early 2021. It’s not even news anymore. Covid, the vaccines and the manufactured death tolls from what is now regarded as a nasty form of flu is the biggest scam since Greta Thunberg’s mother told the world her daughter had “special eyes” that could see carbon rising from a dying planet!

 

Do I need to remind you of your TOPIC HEADER?

So you see no pertinence in the COVID outbreak and it's effects on world and U.S. economics?

 

Certainly the covid hysteria had a huge effect on the western economy, but why blame China for that? It wasn’t the Chinese who ordered our lockdowns and spent billions on what now turns out to be un-needed vaccinations.

 

Well I'll accept that with celebration! The rest, well I'll not dedicate another 100 post counts to your thread on a subject so already thoroughly discussed here on PF

 

True. But Covid originated in China, and 99.99999% in a lab. Covid was a net gain for them. Any lives lost are totally inconsequential to them. But the damage done to economies around the world has done nothing but help. Anything that destabilizes the world helps them. They fill in the void. The use the chaos to gain power. The BIGGEST test will be Taiwan. If the world sits back and let’s it happens, **** is going down. We can only hope someone has plans to replace any dependence we have on Taiwan. And if any companies just sit back and keep quiet, that speaks volumes as to what they want. Apple, Disney. Sports. How can they save face if they support China by not removing themselves from the country the instant it goes down. If they stick around, say hello to our new Chinese overlords.

 

Where covid originated from depends on which media article you read. That it first appeared in Wuhan does not mean it originated there, just as the post WW1 influenza epidemic was termed “Spanish flu” because that’s where it first appeared. Perhaps it originated from neighbouring Laos?

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...s-closest-viruses-to-sars-cov-2-found-in-laos

As such, it joins the conspiracy theories of Russia electing US Presidents and Greta’s prediction that the world will end in a climate catastrophe in 2028.

 

greedy Corporatism is destroying Capitalism in the US

they are outsourcing jobs overseas and importing goods from overseas

that is not sustainable in the long term

 

Absolutely. Hence my op which explains how China prevented that happening to itself.

 

I don’t know any other reports claiming it originated anywhere else, besides the CCP saying our military planted it in Wuhan Either someone ate tainted bat meat right outside a lab, and it just popped into existence or it came from that lab which was experimenting/creating viruses. I’ll take Ochams Razer on this one

 

Thanks for the anecdotal account of China's rise as an economic superpower. It is a bit of a miracle and I suppose the end justifies the means in terms of the need for a tight ship in terms of social control. Things will get interesting once the burgeoning middle class becomes established.

I look forward to hearing an anecdotal account of the US once you've lived and worked there as well

 

I think that abandoning our manufacturing power and outsourcing it to other countries is a mistake.
We were able to win ww2 because our manufacturing capabilities were better than the germans or japs and we outproduced them.
Our economic model is now based on people being consistent consumers rather than producers, and when companies are using foreign labor and resources to produce, the local people get the trickle salary to produce their stuff while the companies pocket the difference and the US doesn't benefit from workers spending their money or factories getting built in the US.
The Chinese have some good policies to level the inequalities in a capitalist economy, but it comes at the price of having to live in a totalitarian state where you have no individual rights.
The west still has great potential due to its reliance on individual freedom as the basis and incentive to deal with challenges, but I worry that it is becoming mired in the banalities of social media and being pulled toward extremes by those who use social media to manipulate minds.
Before, these idiots and criminals were limited in their reach, but now they have a global audience for their corrosive bullshit.
While the Chinese manufacture everything and build more and more factories and develop more resources, we seem to want to dive into a metaverse of hedonistic illusion and squabble about bullshit.
People are now arguing with idiots and getting dragged down into their agenda instead of actually working on solving problems.

 

outsourcing our IT jobs overseas to India is also a mistake and a national security risk

 

Indeed. We hear musk whining that he’s losing money because he can’t get enough batteries for his cars, yet he spends over 40 billion dollars to play social media mogul with twitter but it doesn’t occur to him to invest in his own ev battery factory instead.

 

I just gave you an article in #83 that claims it originated in Laos.

 

You don't have to live in a country to explain it's politics. It's why there's a thing called political science.

 

Actually, that’s wrong. The so-called Spanish flu most probably started in the US and was carried over to Europe near the end of ww1 by soldiers.
It spread around but governments were covering up the situation until newspapers in Spain became the first to print information about the pandemic and so it became known as the Spanish flu.

 

All societies are consumer driven societies except places like North Korea. Where there is only one consumer and that is government.

 

First appearing in Spain why it was called SPANISH flu.

 

You're suggesting third world countries are consumer societies?

 

True, however as you propose in this thread, and I agree with, there is nothing like the lived experience in a country to contrast with what one hears, sees and reads about it.

My experience in the US differed markedly from my expectations. Its strength lies in a middle ground between the extremes - that you don't hear, see and read about because it's a boring story.

 

I saw, yet it’s been 2 years. Why nothing until now? Barely any cases there until Summer of 21, yet it originated there? Hard to believe.

 

Yep. In order to live one must consume. The only thing that ever changes is the amount of things available for public consumption.

 

No, Spain was the first to report on the pandemic, after it had been hushed up in the other European countries.
Don’t believe me, but educate yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu