Why dems are against voter ID laws.

Because red states go and do things like close all but 4 drivers licensing branches, making it a financial hurdle for people to even get an ID. If you make it a giant pain in the ass to vote, less people will vote, especially people who work minimum wage 6-7 days a week and don't get the privilege of time off of work when they need it, and of course, if you don't own a car and have a license, how are you going to drive 50 miles to a license branch to get an ID? We already know when there is lower voter turnout republicans get an advantage. http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/republicans-won-due-lowest-voter-turnout-since-1942/
http://www.waff.com/story/29869389/alea-to-begin-closing-drivers-license-offices-4-to-remain-open

 

how come liberals in canada support the prevention of voter fraud, yet liberals in america are so against it?

I mean I know your made up reason above that magically nobody will be able to get an ID as some grand conspiracy... but I'm just curious why the vast difference between liberals in canada and america... I've been reading about it more and more since they had their election the other day... its amazing how normal the liberals in canada appear compared to the ones in america...

 

What giant pain in the ass?

25. Section 8 Housing
26. Cash a check
27. Go to an Obama speaking engagement
28. Take an AMTRAK Train
29. WIC program
30. Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program
31. Hospital Emergency Room

They forgot a few.

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Illegal aliens couldn't vote if we had voter ID.

 

Not all Democrats are against Voter ID laws.

 

LOL... where I'm from, you don't even need to be a citizen to get an ID and vote. They pass them out like candy. California is going to have several foreign governments trying to sway our elections by insuring Democrats stay in power and continue to punish Californians and sell us out to Gazi's (global socialist). The Democrats will fight with each other under the table to compete for these foreign votes and the Republicans will be completely gone. By the way, when you go vote here, don't forget your ID because you need it for everything else.

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I've never seen one. Group thinkers generally follow the group think but they do make exceptions.

 

Then don't pull shenanigans like closing down 90% of the drivers licensing branches. And it comes straight from the mouth of your crooks. You'd have to be a willfully ignorant fool to not recognize a problem. If it wasn't about voter suppression, republicans would do everything in their power to increase the ability for those required to vote with ID to actually get an ID. Instead, they do the opposite.
http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/24/voter-discrimination/

 

sure they could... several states give IDs to illegals... so they all have a photo ID...

all they have to do is sign that little form at the polls that says "I attest under penalty of perjury"... when was the last time anyone took those cards and verified the people signing them are legal citizens... never... mostly because those cards have no actual identification to link you to citizenship... just a name and an address... no social security number required on them...

in fact most states allow you to register to vote in their state, using a current out of state ID, and a copy of a local utility bill... its SO easy for them to illegally vote... if they want to... hence why california is one of the stopping points for illegals to get an ID, then move to other states... and use that ID to establish everything they need and blend in hidden now...

 

Who runs the State of California? You seem to think the Republicans do.

The state senate currently consists of 26 Democrats and 14 Republicans, and the Assembly consists of 52 Democrats and 28 Republicans.

So tell me again about Republican shenanigans.

 

A Map of Voting Rates Across the United States Proves Demise of ‘Voter ID Laws are Racist’ Myth

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/185049-democrats-losing-war-voter-id-placeholder-title/

 

Where did I mention California?

 

Yeah,I'm not against showing an ID of some form,what I am against is making it harder for people to vote.
When it is voted in GOP legislature to shut down teachers from doing voter registration in Senior classes
When GOP legislature shuts down the "Souls to the Polls",Sunday voting
When GOP legislature shuts down polling places,making it really hard for "some" people to go vote,or having to miss a day of work to stand in voting line for over 8 hours--
For GOP legislature(in one certain state) to only open Drivers license venue one day a month,before a couple days ago,it was they were not open at all
This I'm sure is just a snippit of the GOP shenanigans ,tsk,tsk----

 

Politicking does not belong in the classroom any more than religion.

Where did that happen?

Guess you've never heard of an absentee ballot.

Where did that happen.

Let's see some links please.

 

So, I have done voter registration here in Nevada for several years,on the voter registration form you either have to give your drivers license or a social security number,it is verified electronically before the County Clerk allows you to vote.They ask,if you assist someone filling out the form to put your name down,so if there are any questions,they have 2 people to contact.
Now if you are already registered to vote,when you go in to vote,they find your name in the voters logue,have you sign your name,your signature is verified electronically before you get a voters card.
Easy,efficient,now if you all think it would make it more efficient to show the ID with the little gold star on it,fine,I don't have a problem with that,but make it more convienient to get that ID.

 

soooo are you contesting my point illegals can get photo ID's that are legit... or what are you trying to do here...

its easy to get an ID, and its easy for an illegal to get an ID... thats what I was discussing with the person who said illegals can't vote if we had photo ID... clearly I demonstrated its not the end all be all in stopping fraud either... unless we start demanding birth certificates linked to a license like the "REAL ID" law was supposed to be doing, but seems some states still opt not to follow the law and issue them without being linked to birth certificates, and without putting the big bold red lettering on the side of the license saying this person was not verified by birth certificate...

 

OK, first off,yes, I have heard of absentee ballots,however,people usually use absentee ballots when they are going to be out of state or out of the country on election day.
OK, if you are so misinformed on some of these GOP changes on election protocol,I will go do your research for you---
On the contrary,to have a better understanding of our democracy,school is a very good starting point to learn about it!

 

Well,yes, I guess I am contesting your claim,that is;" it is easy to get a fake ID"[/B]it is not easy,at least here in Nevada,and mind you, Nevada is as diverse in ethnicity as they come.

 

Thanks,I had forgot the name, "Real ID",that's what I was talking about the ID with the gold star on it.

 

http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork....johnson_on_north_carolina_election_laws_2.pdf
Here's your "Souls to the polls" link....

 

I cited california clearly, as well as the other states that allow people to get photo ID... and correct me if I am wrong... Nevada will accept an out of state photo ID, as long as the person has other proof of residency? that seems to be a common thing in most states, they don't force people to get a state issued ID to register to vote, they can use their out of state ID still... I know this is the case in the majority of states, but my desire to google facts today is dramatically lower than yesterday, so its easier to just ask you...

 

http://www.wtvm.com/story/30283120/governor-31-closed-drivers-license-offices-to-open-1-day-a-month
That would be Alabama,this is current news,you being all political & all should be aware of this----just saying---

 

In WA, this is a voter registration issue.

Registered voters have their signatures on file.

We vote at home. My ballot comes with a sleeve that identifies me.

I sign the sleeve, and before my ballot is tabulated my signature is compared to my signature in the registration database.

There is no reason to go to a polling place. And, they are a source of corruption.

 

No, incorrect,you have to have a Nevada ID or Nevada Drivers license to register to vote here--even if a person chooses to put down their Social Security number instead of their Drivers license,we still ask to see that license to make sure they live in Nevada---If they don't have this info,I have to direct them to the County Clerks office,I however,have never had an incident where someone wanted to use an out of state ID or Drivers license to register to vote--
Now,what I am not certain about,is the college students,I have not had any incidents with how they handle that issue as Reno is the closest University from where I live,however, we had young out of state college students here working with the OBAMA campaign & they all got absentee ballots from their states to vote---

 

Well,maybe corruption in Florida,but,not here in Nevada,there is only one voting fraud situation that has occurred here in the 20 years of me living here & that is a GOP woman,who wanted to make a point that she could vote twice on the same day at 2 different polling places,to prove corruption, the result,her ass went to jail for voting fraud!!!
corruption

 

TRUE. ALEC does a TEMPLATE so any RED STATE fascists can make it HARD for "certain demographics" to vote. Being a white guy, in a mostly White Middle of the road precinct... I can vote easy. Were I 10 miles away..in a "Negro zone" they'd have made me stand in a long line. I GET the PURPOSE. I KNOW who drives that bus.

 

So,please keep in mind that I am talking about Nevada---The Real ID law states that all Nevada residents have to have the Real ID by 2020,so when people go to get their licenses or ID's renewed (which for me is every 4 years,I have ID,I don't drive)they highly encourage you to get the Real ID,I went this past August to renew,they require 3 forms of ID other than your current ID for example;,passport,tax return with your address on it,current pay stub with your address on it,& even though I had all 3 & I have lived at my current address for 20 years,they still asked for a 4th form,so, I gave them the renewal notice they sent me in the mail,that still wasn't good enough,finally they accepted my checking account with my address on it for the 4th item-I'm telling you-they are that strict---
A friend of mine went to go renew & get the Real ID,she had so much trouble,she left,went home,packed a suitcase jammed full of everything she could think of having her address on it(which she has lived at same address for over 40 years)& pulled it into the DMV,true story----they are that strict----