Why did God talk so much back in the day and now...nothing?

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  1. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask him why those who loose limbs don't get them restored. I used to ask and never was answered, but since you are tight with him maybe he will tell you.
     
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    He also talked to the Hindus, the muslims, or at least to one muslim, and both wrote it down and you have the Bhagavad Gita, the Upanishads and the Koran today. In one of the Hindus books, it was said, Tat vsam asi...thou art That. Christ said, we are all sons of god, when he quoted Judaic scripture. The Koran does not say that, and as the ancient jews in the time of Christ believed, it was heresy to say that God could dwell in man, which is one of the reasons Christ got his arse murdered. For it was punishable by death, to make such a claim. For like the muslims believe, there is god, there is man, and never the twain shall meet.

    But the reason god used to converse with man, but no longer does, is because we stopped using DMT infused flora, which allowed the communication between the gods and man. That is, stopped using it in religion. But if you do some ayahuasca, you can meet those gods again, and they will even converse with you. And even the human body manufactures DMT, so perhaps through meditation we somehow can produce enough to do bring one in contact with these gods, or a God, and that may be the origin of most religions. You write down what you are told, and then instead of communing with god experientially, you just read about what someone else was told and you base your beliefs upon that, instead of the direct experience. Second hand religion, in other words.

    I believe we should have a right of passage that involves ingesting ayahuasca, perhaps a week long rights of passage, where we reset the brain, freeing it up as we open it up to these other realities, and enter into the realm of the gods. It has proven beneficial, and the far left and the far right would benefit greatly from it. It would clean their act up. For it would show them, that they are nothing more than an act, actors which are acting in a very destructive reality that they themselves and everyone else has created. They wrote the play, and its the worst, most evil possible play. And together they can write a totally different play, a play of goodness, order, justice, and love. And one based upon rationality, logic, reason, driven forward by a basic moral center which places human life, and all life as the most valuable thing. Then you might have a genuine religion.

    Or I could be full of (*)(*)(*)(*). Since no one will try it, on a sufficient scale, we will never know, will we?
     
  3. Electron

    Electron Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    God used to be quite active. Since around the invention of telescopes and microscopes, he got all shy. Now there's the scientific method, he's totally scared off.

    Good riddance.
     
  4. Johnny Brady

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    1- Hinduism has the wretched caste system, and Islam allows the killing of infidels among other things, so it was probably Satan talking to them, not God.
    2- Jesus said “If God were your Father, you would love me..” (John 8:42), so it follows that anybody who rejects Jesus is not a son or daughter of God..:)
     
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    To hear God, you must first turn to God! And what happen to you or whoever your talking about, I am very sorry about that. You must pray! I'm sure you don't want to hear this, but with enough faith and zero doubt, nothing is impossible!

    I will say a prayer for you.
     
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    Faith makes nothing possible regardless of how little doubt you have.

    It is better to think and act.
     
  7. Johnny Brady

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    Jesus said "My Father is always working" (John 5:17), so for all we know he was tweaking the DNA of cavemen to create a new improved brand of human each generation.
    Then after thousands of years when he considered they were sufficiently advanced, he started sending prophets to them, and later he sent Jesus but they were still primitive enough to kill him, it's an occupational hazard for alien visitors. Jesus said "I am not of this world ...." (John 8:23)
    BAM BAM!
    [​IMG]
     
  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    It seems that everytime Jesus spoke he reinforced the idea that he was a psychopath and that he was seriously mentally ill. But that's true of all of the notable religious characters.
     
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    I have often asked the same but a bit more deeply.

    Consider that primitive man was more likely to believe in any god or gods . Primitive man had no explanation for earthquakes, famine, volcanoes, disease etc. So they were always quick to blame it on wrath of god or gods. However we today know a great deal more about nature and the causes of such catastrophes. The point being why did god perform miracles and speak to people directly when they were more likely to believe but TODAY when people need more evidence the god some people believe in provides...........................................nothing.

    Much more as well but that is a start
     
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    It is also interesting to point out that he spoke in various ways which evolved and changed based on the era or book he is described in and to ask why.

    In the earliest book, genesis, he actually appears in person and speaks face to face. Although strangely enough for a supposedly omnipotent being Adam found it very easy to trick and fool god.

    He also apparently spoke face to face with Cain and Noah and some others.

    Then about the time ( roughly as my biblical history is a bit rusty ) he began speaking through angels as he did to Jacob or in dreams as he did to Joseph. Then came rather bizzare miraculous communications such as through burning bushes and freaky miracles such as rods turning into snakes etc.

    For a while after the first passover he spoke strictly through the ark of the covenant and in doing so acted like a petulant angry genie in a bottle killing people for no good reason etc.

    Finally he settled down speaking mainly through prophets who simply claimed the voices in their head were him.

    All until he made a virgin pregnant with himself to be born and then killed as a sacrifice to himself to save people from what he did to them in the first place which makes perfectly no sense.

    There are two explanations for this stupidity that I can think of one is what christians always run to when faced with inconvenient facts which is that god moves in mysterious ways.

    The other is the more likely that it is all a collection of nonsensical myths which were borrowed from many sources and nothing more
     
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    Satan only talked to Saul and convinced him to become Paul and give false christian teachings.
    Pretty sly, huh?
     
  12. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For some reason that reminded me of:

    And this is good old Boston,
    The home of the bean and the cod,
    Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
    And the Cabots talk only to God.
     
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    You didn't answer the question.
     
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    Wow, you really are very special in that case. I've asked the gods to give me a shout out on many occasions, and have never heard a peep. What am I doing wrong?
     
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    Unless your father was seriously sh!tty at his job. In such cases, rejection is the moral option.
     
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    When you say 'you must first turn to god', you're effectively saying that in order to believe, you must first believe. Which is absurd ... obviously.

    Meantime, with enough faith and zero doubt, anything at all can be believed. Hence the huge variety of religions and superstitions.
     
  17. Johnny Brady

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    What question? Maybe you didn't understand my sensational answer..:)
     
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    the OP question.

    I understood that you thought saying "but he wrote a book!" was an answer.
     
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    Here's the OP question- Why did God talk so much back in the day and now...nothing?

    And here's my sensational answer in post #3, which bit do you need me to clarify?-
    He said all he had to say back then, and people wrote it down, then everything was bound into one volume and called the Bible, that's where his and Jesus's words can be found today..
    Jesus said- "My words will never pass away" (Matt 24:35)
     
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    Originally Posted by Johnny Brady:
    Jesus said “If God were your Father, you would love me..” (John 8:42), so it follows that anybody who rejects Jesus is not a son or daughter of God..

    God sent Jesus to bust the snooty priests asses, so whose side you on, his or theirs?..;)

    "You're full of sh*t!"
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    “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look clean on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean" (Matt 23:27)
     
  21. Johnny Brady

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    It looks pretty much to me as if Jesus and Paul were singing from the same song sheet, and in fact Paul used to say "Follow Christ not me, I wasn't crucified for you" (1 Cor 1:12/13)
     
  22. dairyair

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    What should he say if he is working for the great deceiver? Follow me so you go to hell? LOL.
    He has to sell his deception.
    BTW - Saul and Jesus disagree on the path to salvation.
     
  23. Johnny Brady

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    I'm still not sure what you're getting at mate. Jesus used to slap the snooty priests around and rescue prostitutes from the mob and tell us to reject the stupid ways of the world so I kinda like him because he was a rebel..:)
    Who do you think are more likely to go to hell, Jesus's followers or the priests?
     
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    Wasn't it Jesus who said 'Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's.' Was Ceasar around in those days? I thought he was much later.
     
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    I often hear 'Jesus said' stories which aren't even in the bible. How does that work then?
     

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