Why do non-law abiding citizens not have problems with gun control?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Registration is an easier sell when they can argue they need it for UBCs to work.

    Registration is their goal.
    No one wonders why.
     
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    Volunteering to register ones guns is akin to kneeling down to make it easier on Terrorists backs, when they shoot you in the head, I would rather die fighting, than to capitulate...
     
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    And if you are not involved in gang/drug activity, the rate goes a lot lower.

    3.9 per 100,000 is for ALL homicides, not just firearms.
     
  4. DoctorWho

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    In New York City, as a LEO, I saw many un-involved people die, in public housing projects, often called "The Projects" these large building complexes housed a wide range of Criminals and non Criminals, both often dying side by side, often, the line of distinction between combatant and non combatant is blurred.

    The responding LEO has a difficult task, that is why an important and often overlooked part of police work is community related work, get to know people, it helps if you speak a second language and partner up with someone that does.
     
  5. WillReadmore

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    That's what i have said.

    My question is why.
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    We still have piracy and banditry today.

    Bandits aren't some group you can defeat and then think banditry has ended.

    We can make progress in reducing the problem, though.
     
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    Because if our justice system was to to crack down on gun crimes, it would disproportionately effect minorities. The dems already have a problem with our incarceration rate, especially for minorities.
     
  8. QLB

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    But it ended in that era and was terminated quite effectively.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    Good Lord! Isn't that blatantly obvious?

    Besides, progress without registration is possible. For example, we could step up enforcement of existing law - as has been suggested on this thread.
     
  10. DoctorWho

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    There is hope for you yet young Jedi Knight !

    Complete your training and Welcome !!! May the Force be with you !
     
  11. QLB

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    Not really, in liberal speak that really means it's Whitey's fault and that they need more of of other people's money. There's no intention of really enforcing the law especially since catch and release is the new goal of the DOJ.
     
  12. DoctorWho

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    Yes, I saw proof of that as a police officer, however, I believe Willreadmore can join us.....
     
  13. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

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    Have you EVER seen a liberal REALLY want the law enforced? There's always some sort of caveat or loophole they want left open. They never really change their spots either, they just learn to lie better. I don't believe any of them and haven't for a while.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    No, bandits and pirates are active today.

    You can't possibly suggest that a methodology can be defeated.

    No potential pirate is going to modify their plans based on something some Englishman did centuries ago. They probably don't even know about that.

    It's like suggesting that we can defeat terrorism. And, we know for an absolute fact that one can NOT defeat terrorism with force. We can reduce terrorism that has specific causes or locations, but terrorism will always exist.
     
  15. WillReadmore

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    What you are stating is seriously limited and really doesn't have any application.

    We've added protection against pirates relatively recently and have rerouted shipping to avoid it, so even though it remains a serious local problem through significant regions, we don't care enough to do any more about it. But, suggesting piracy has ended is ridiculous. Piracy is a booming industry today.

    For piracy in 2016, see: https://www.icc-ccs.org/piracy-reporting-centre/live-piracy-map

    Our issue today really has more to do with terrorism.

    For solutions to that I would suggest looking at cases where terrorism was reduced successfully - such as UK (IRA) and South Africa (Mandela). And, feel free to mention any other case where you think terrorism was solved.
     
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    Don't forget to add Brigandage and Pillaging and Perfidy and Conflagration to your list of crimes, and last but not least, Ravishing, no Pirate worth his Salarium Argentum, follows not the complete & vile list of Evil deeds & conduct worthy of a true Brigand.
     
  17. QLB

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    Sure you can. You just have to have the force of will to do so. Proven time and time again. The Romans dealt with brigandage and rebellion harshly. It worked. The Jews should know better than anyone. Even hear of John Salmon Ford? Better known as RIP Ford. He and his rangers ended brigandage on the Texas border before the War of Northern Aggression. The Khalifa's luck ran out at Umm Diwaykarat. He was on his prayer rug when the Maxim's cut him down, ending the depredations of the Mahdi. The same in the third golden age of piracy. The RN simply killed or executed all members of pirate ships with few exceptions. There are many other examples.
     
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    Tell that to Somalia
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    May I invite you on a refreshing cruise off of the coast of Somalia, Nigeria or Indonesia?? Apparently the notorious Straights of Malacca still sees the odd pirate raid
     
  20. DoctorWho

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    Sure, why not ? last I was there, a .50 BMG soon made short work of it, Pirate Ghosts,
    or was it Ghost Pirates ???

    I always forget. :roflol:
     
  21. QLB

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    Meanwhile how do you think D. Wade thinks about gun control and BLM now?
     
  22. Maccabee

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    I don't see why can't we just arm the cargo ships. Training won't be much in cost. Have the rifles in a safe room and a few .50 cals on the deck. A few rounds of "DUD DUD DUD DUD DUD" should send the pirates packing.
     
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    Better yet why not stop the richer countries step mining the oceans for fish to feed cats and allow the Somalis to earn a living off of fishing like they used to
     
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    Who's stopping the fishers? Plus that's still no excuse for the pirates. Their is cargo that need that part of the ocean so why not arm them?
     
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    Mostly it is European ships that are stripping the oceans of fish and therefor stripping the fishermen of a livelihood. When you are living in abject poverty then anything that might get you out looks good
     

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