Why do non-law abiding citizens not have problems with gun control?

How are they doing that? Plus like I said that's still no excuse. Also you didn't answer my question. What's wrong with arming cargo ships?

 

By that logic, nothing should be illegal.



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What do you mean ? please explain.

 

Probably not so long as there's no violation of the NAP.

 

Laws don't prevent people from committing crimes. They serve as deterrents and give society a mechanism for responding to some violations.

If you don't think that's enough... then no law will give you what you want.



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More Liberal Hogwash & Koolaide.

 

Try google it is your friend

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Sorry but that particular brand of cool aid is not left wing

 

Sure it is, Our Liberal Democrat party Kool Aid is more or less the same Australian Political rubbish,
Dependence on top heavy big spending Government.

 

How do you "step mine" oceans ?? the water will flow right back !

 

What crime never happens because it's illegal?



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In other words you don't have an answer.

 

It has nothing do do with Not enough ( Punishment for the Guilty ) or Too Much, etc...... It is all about the Liberal Mantra, Let's Ban Guns of this type or that type, let's restrict concealed carry, etc, yet all these measures affect only those not inclined to break laws, the innocent, the law abiding, Not the Criminals !

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So why is a Ban on Guns always the answer ? Or more restrictions on Law Abiding Citizens ???

If Criminals do not obey Laws, why make moar Laws they will not obey and simply ignore ?
This makes life for Law Abiding People more difficult, ie, Moar Gun bans, Restrictions on Guns and accessories etc...

 

Do you believe these guns are being purchased legally? Of course not. Next.

 

The UK is the size of Alabama. Do you think that is a reasonable comparison for ratios of shootings? Maybe find a country of similar population and diversity (And not a dictatorship...that's a terrifying comparison)
Australia has a population of 20,434,176 and the USA 301,139,947. Wow, that's a large difference, wouldn't you say?
So if these smaller and/or less populated countries have large jumps in crime due to gun control, what do you believe would happen here? Even a 10% rise here would be catastrophic. I hope one of those 30,113,994 of a probable increase isn't someone you love.
See https://crimeresearch.org/2013/12murder-and-homicide-rates for reference
The scary thing is that is a low probable increase. (I told you before 42% rise in violent crime in Australia, with a small population)

 

If criminals do not obey laws, why make any laws? Because, although no one abides all laws, law enforcement does deter people from breaking them as often or as easily as they would otherwise. And it gives society recourse to act when someone breaking those laws is caught.



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And that is just untrue, restrictive gun laws do not serve as crime control or crime prevention, in other Countries where guns are too expensive, if a worker is only paid $30 U.S. a week, and must support a family of 4 on such meager wages, that person is not likely to afford a gun, unless that person is a Police Officer or is issued firearms, as a Soldier, or Government Agent, Official, etc...

Your reasoning is specious, there are laws in place, murder is illegal, yet many murder, is this a reason to eliminate Laws ? a resounding NO !
However, to think that Gun Bans that only affect Law abiding People is a cure for crime, is to inhabit a fool's paradise.

Why pass more Gun Laws, Gun Bans, restrictions on gun Licenses, when these will only affect the good guys.

 

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Chalk and cheese mate. We are significantly further to the left than you are. Witness the political slaughter of any government even hinting about dismantling Medicare. We were founded on socialist principles by avowed socialists and that belief still underpins our political thinking

 

And yet who is more likely to be involvedin criminal activity?

They do restrict criminal access. Not so much the career criminal but the first time punk starting on a career

 

I am sure you are quite correct in matters Australian, of that I have no doubt, however, here in America, it is quite another matter entirely.

My friend decided he was going to the park to play the game Ingress, this game is available on Google games, it requires walking around, it is GPS based, and you play invisible GPS based coordinates, I told him to let me know when he was going to the park, or take my dog along, he took off alone, two men, a salt & pepper team robbed him of his phone and tablet, it was his decision to go alone, it was a bad decision to go alone...

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So, you know more than I do about crime ? the first time punk uses a knife.
They eventually graduate to a gun.

 

Laws affect everyone and are designed without presumption of who is good and who is bad. That is why the lady wears a blindfold.



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And yet the only ones who are actually prosecuted for firearms-related offenses are those who are not criminals. We have documented evidence that nearly everyone with a preexisting criminal record does not have such charges, because they are routinely dropped in favor of offering a plea bargain for reduced charges.

 

What? Many of them are. A straw purchase is a legal purchase till it's illegally transferred. Stolen weapons are legal weapons. Then again what would you call the BATF sale of weapons to criminals? A bit of a grey zone there, don't you think? That may be a bit much for you.

 

How do you prosecute someone who does not commit a crime?



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The punk starting on a career of crime surrounds himself with other criminals. You become like those that you spend your time with. Often drugs are involved.These first timers get drugs and guns from their friends.... Same as the established criminals.