Why do they fall in line like lambs?

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Is it something that i've said or suggested? No? Hmm.. So why attempt to associate your fantasy with me? It's kind of creepy.
     
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    Nothing from you guys ever surprises me.
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like the jailed 1/6 rioters, the defrauded investors in his casino company, the people who donated to his fraudulent charity, the victims of his NY fraud scheme, the attorneys who conspired with him who are facing criminal charges, the officials who participated in the failed insurrection, the fake electors, and soon enough the people buying stock in his fraudulent media platform.
     
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    I am guessing the irony in your statement has escaped you.
     
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    Not like the meaning of what I said escapes you.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When one considers that Trump was the son of a mostly non-descript real estate developer, who parlayed that business to new heights while becoming a household name since the 80s, then turned that into a hit television show that ran for many years, then brashly proclaimed he was going to run for President, and to almost everyone's astonishment, he WON! He went from being a political neophyte to leader of the free world in a little over a year. He lost a close election for his second term, and is now the apparent nominee 4 years later.

    Whether you love him or hate him, that is one of the greatest, most unlikely stories ever told. While the legion of his detractors is well known (yourself included), try as they may (and boy do they try), no spin can be conceived that can erase his truly historic feats.
     
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    I can assure you that the meaning of your statement in question "I find pictures help when dealing with juvenile arguments" did not escape me.

    That is precisely why I called it ironic, because in the midst of implying someone else is being juvenile, you yourself made an undeniably juvenile claim. Pictures and memes are not the domain of those with a legitimate argument, they are instead a purposeful distraction and nothing else. I would encourage you to try to keep your responses dignified, but I am afraid that is unlikely if history is a guide to future actions.
     
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    Good! Step up your arguments.
    No, that would be you.
    Oh, yes they are when you're faced with nonsense. In anycase they seem to have gotten your attention; mission accomplished. 8)
    Purposeful ... yes. And they do seem to work.
    I would encourage you to keep your posts dignified so I don't have to resort to pictures to communicate at their level. You can be sure I will respond to your nonsense with more pictures because the inanity of your posts leave me speechless.

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    8)
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meh.

    Once a conversation has devolved into nothing but personal insults, it is time to move along. My point has long since been made, and I am not one for going on a nonstop aimless bickering fest.

    There is no point in continuing. Sorry.

    Good day sir.
     
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    It wasn't just an NDA, and Trump was well aware of it, and directly involved in it, despite your previous false claim to the contrary.

    Yes, it is perfectly legal for his lawyer to spot him the money and for Trump to pay him back, but no, that isn't a "legal fee." It's a campaign contribution. It's illegal to engage in this kind of behavior and try to cover it up as a "legal fee."

    His name was Michael Cohen, by the way, and I have no idea where you got the idea that his prison sentence was only for the taxi medallions. But this makes it ABSOLUTELY clear that you have not followed the case at all and DEFINITELY didn't read the sentencing. I did. You, instead, were told a lie by other Trump supporters, and you blindly echoed it without spending a single second to find out if it was true. This is a pattern I see daily with Trump supporters.

    Righties are very good at ignoring any reality that offends the Dear Leader. We've had several exhibits in this thread alone.
     
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    So stop the insults or move along. 8)
     
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    TRaitor tRump has been a household joke since before the 80's.
    Proving that the only way he could be successful was to play act being successful.
    And in less time than that disgraced The Office of President of The United States, in ways no one ever dreamed possible.
    It wasn't EVEN close to close.
    Which he wouldn't even be able to run if it weren't for a misguided Supreme court.
    Or if you're just a patriot that recognizes he's the greatest threat to Government By the PEOPLE ... EVER!
    You're right; he's taken the role of a grifting conman to heights that are truly historic.

    Since leaving office he's spent over $100 million dollars of his supporters money on legal fees. That's more than $90,000.00 dollars a day of people's rent and grocery money.

    They sent him over $250 million dollars between the election and President Biden's inauguration to fight for the lie that the election was stolen. :shock:

    He took money from his PAC's, that HE controls, and gave it to a Super PAC that he doesn't control. But HIS PAC's are running out of money so he's asked for refunds from the Super PAC and now the Super PAC is almost broke. Hundreds of millions of donations from his supporters is almost all gone. So, he took over the RNC and is robbing what little it had in the bank.

    Yes! AbsaByGodLutely! EVERYTHING tRaitor tRump touches gets destroyed. He came withing a hair's breath of destroying These United States and Government BY the PEOPLE.


    Just vote NO on tRaitor tRump 2024.
     
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    If the hat fits wear it.
     
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    Pray tell OP why does the left march in lock step Like North Koreans?
     
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    My understanding is that he got about a million bucks from his father. A billion is a thousand times a million. The S&P 500 and all the inflation that made the numbers bigger came nowhere near being capable of doing that. He built a strong real estate company with that as seed money. That is entrepreneurial success at a basic level. His company has little leverage. It literally owns most of that real estate without debt. I get that you hate him but it isn't a reason to disrespect his success. Some of his ventures failed. Some of mine failed also. That changes nothing. Just say you hate him and leave it at that. No need to trash him.

    I don't hate anyone. I do dislike Trump and wouldn't vote for him but he gets credit for his entrepreneurial skill. Sorry. I dislike the My Pillow man and haven't bought his stuff but he gets the same credit as well. Everything isn't political and everybody isn't likeable.
     
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    Good advice, you should take it.
     
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    He got far, far more than that.

    He built a FRAUDULENT real estate company with that money, and it wasn't just "seed money." See previous posts.

    Only if fraud is part of said "success." I don't regard a company as successful if its success is partiall due to fraud, but you do you.

    I'd love to see your evidence of that.

    I understand you love him and are eager to jump to his defense, but that isn't a reason to ignore objective reality.

    You may be fine with serial con men and wannabe dictators. I am not.

    Again, what entrepreneurial skill? He's doing about as well as he would have done if he hadn't done any entrepreneurship at all and just invested in a generic index instead. No skill is really required for that. There was no "entrepreneurial skill" involved in the vast majority of his efforts -- just slapping his name on stuff that he didn't make and calling it the best. Did you even look at his tax returns? How can you possibly call some of the biggest financial losses in the country "entrepreneurial skill."

    There is no skill involved in that. But none of that would bother me if 1) people hadn't fallen for these lies and 2) if what "success" he did have wasn't through FRAUD and con games.

    You claim to dislike Trump. So why do you fly into a panic when people dislike the fact that he cheated people through his fraudulent "charity," his fraudulent "university," and his fraudulent real estate empire. Either you love him, you were completely unaware of all of this, or you think that fraud is perfectly acceptable as a "business practice." Or some combination of the above. Those are really the only options, dude.
     
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    But it fits you ever so much better.
     
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    Then why do you keep voting for Democrats?
     
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    This will be the first time I've ever voted straight ticket Dem, and that's only because of my disappointment with the GOP primaries, which, yes, I voted in. I would have voted for pretty much any Republican besides Trump or Cruz in 2016. But there is no evidence Biden has engaged in this kind of behavior, while it defines Trump's entire career. You are proffering a fake comparison. Feel free to name one Dem I've voted for who has built their career on fraud.
     
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    It wasn;t a campaign contribution. That is an absurd take. It didn't go to advertising for the campaign And it was his own damn money. Even with that what you are claiming is that a person who is financing his own political campaign must then claim every other expenditure he makes as a campaign expense which is patent nonsense.
     
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    Yes. It was. According to the law. Please do a sliver of research. This is getting old. You might want to start with the sentencing I mentioned earlier, that you hadn't read and still clearly haven't.

    . . . you think Trump was financing his own campaign? Lol. And, yes, if he gets an in-kind contribution, he has to report it. Just like everyone else. He doesn't get to lie in order to cover it up. That's a crime. Your whole "The law applies to everyone but Trump" standard is sickening, but at least it explains everything.
     
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    I'm not a hat guy; it's all you!
     
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    For the second time now, we are done. My point has long since been made and your incessant bickering is just not my bag.

    Sorry.
     
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    I'm not bickering just responding to attacks; which put the onus of "bickering" on you folks. 8) :bye: Again. LOL! :roll:
     
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