Why don't women rape?

I agree motivations are different and each case is different but I also agree with alexa in that most rapists are psychopaths. Maybe it's easier for men to understand how a man can rape b/c you have the same equipment, and maybe it's disconcerting for a woman to hear that you as a male can understand the thought process even though you aren't condoning it.

 

I really don't understand the mindset of a male that grabs a woman and rapes her against her will. That, in my mind, is psychopathic. Using other human beings for your pleasure without their consent.

I do, however, understand the mindset of a male who is given full consent to engage in sex by the woman, is in the act, and she suddenly says 'no.' Even if he 'pulls out' she can still accuse him of rape.

Admittedly I am a 'broken record' on this...If you want to avoid an unplanned pregnancy, or being accused of rape don't have procreational sex without a commitment. That still will not totally protect a man from a rape accusation but its better than nothing.

 

I think it is about power, but not power in the sense of physical dominance of the male gender over the female gender.

Men ask. Women render a verdict. This is basically the dynamics of the sexual arena.

Rape (in all its variables) is the rapist not asking, but taking that power. The same can be seen in the "flasher". Male dominated occurence, taking that power of a yes or no away from the female.

 

Yes but a verdict they can rescind at any time during the formerly consensual sex act and then cry 'rape.' Moreover once the 'verdict' is given and even if the consensual sex act is completed with her 'blessing' that STILL does not absolve the man from accusations of 'rape' if she decides she doesn't like him.

This is because of the physical nature of the human procreational sex act which requires the male to enter the female's body. Feminazis call that trespassing.

 

A woman raping a man. That implies that the man is unwilling. If the man is unwilling, that may make the rape difficult. Do you ever shoot pool with a rope? The rapistess better bring some duct tape and pop sickle sticks.

 

Well, that rather depends.

Someone explained before that a man was drunk and half asleep, when he woke up to find an unknown women at a party (or someplace), having sex with him.

Now, yes, it could be argued that in his half asleep and v drunk state, he got an erection, but that in itself is not evidence of compliance.

Indeed, it can be deemed rape if it can be established that the person was in no fit state to have agreed to sex, that is a fact, and rightly so, imo.

Anyway, this man above may not have got the erection as a result of wanting to have sex with the women, he may have got one anyway, as men do, or she may have exploited the situation, and aroused him, while he was incapable of knowing fully what was going on.

It may sound like a 'fantasy' to some, and others may argue that 'no man would moan', but that is not the point, the point is that non consenting sex took place, and that IS rape.

Moreover, I don't accept that all men would be pleased with the above.

What if he were happily married?

What if she got pregnant as a result?

What if he simply did not wish to have sex?

You see?

 

People here are still convinced women do not rape? Perhaps this story may convince you that they do:

Many years ago when I was a student in law school we had a case of a woman who filed false rape reports EIGHT times on different victims. Each time she convinced the police, the judge, and the jury that she had been raped when she hadn't been. She took money from the local victims compensation fund and spent it on luxuries while innocent men spent long periods of time in prison for crimes they did not commit. As usual, the judges did not allow any testimony as to her questionable past during the trials. Had they allowed it, perhaps some of those innocents may have been spared the tortuous experience of being imprisoned for a crime they did not commit.

Years later the woman moved to the East coast and filed yet another false rape report. But this time a female intern in the prosecutor's office looked at her and said that her face looked familiar. The intern discovered who this woman was and reported it immediately to her supervisor and police. The woman was arrested and her anti-male campaign was stopped (hopefully forever).

Suppose that had been any one of you who was her victim? Suppose it was your son, husband, brother? Suppose any one of them spent 10 to 20 years in jail each day facing the terror of being gang raped or murdered in prison while that woman gets off laughing and spending victim compensation money on luxuries? Would you still believe women do not rape? Would you still say women are always the innocent victims while men are always the victimizers??

I suggest that if any of you (or a family member) were raped in prison under these circumstances and had to wear a colostomy bag for the rest of your life, you would likely say that, yes, women do rape. And, all too often, contrary to the views of certain people, they get away with it without being held accountable for their crimes.

 

Rape is a serious and despicable crime.

It should be deal with harshly.

That said, I have always felt there is a case for saying that if someone is proven to have fabricated allegations, then the person making the accusation should serve the sentence that the accused might have got if their lies had not come out.

 

I believe it is beyond a feminazi or misandry extremes. Knew a guy in the military who came within a smidgeon of having his life and career ruined (late 80's), when a woman called rape after willingly entering his bed.

Anyways, IMO it is about taking the power of verdict in the sexual arena away from the woman, literally by force by the rapist. That is the power struggle, when people say it is about control/power.

 

The first step towards ascertaining whether any of the charges are fabricated is by allowing into court testimony of past sexual activity on the part of the accuser. It certainly would have helped in those EIGHT cases and in the Mike Tyson case. Thereafter, civil lawsuits in which the false accuser is compelled to fully compensate her victims must be allowed as well.

 

....bla bla bla...boohoo. All you poor whiny potential male victims know the simple answer to alleged false accusations.

Don't put yourself in that situation. Don't be promiscuous. Don't sleep around. Not rocket science.

 

I hope nothing like this happens to your son or husband:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...erved-3-years-false-rape-claim-fantasist.html

I can give you dozens more cases like it but I'm sure you get the pciture.

 

I'm sure you do and thank you for your genuine good wishes. (deliberatly overlooking one is married and the other is so far not an idiot).

Daily Mail 2010. Not a credible source for many of us and the article went to press quite a long time ago. Not something that happens too often then, if you can only pull that as an example?

How many male rape cases could you evidence since 2010?

 

Daily Mail is a conservative paper so that it should be acceptable for most on this forum as right wingers are the majority. As for numbers of such cases, a Google search will suffice to give anyone a sufficient amount of information in that regard.

 

There have been cases of females raping males, but the cases tend to be few and far between. I believe there are a couple of reasons for this. One reason being that male victims are less willing to report such a crime to the authorities. Whether its for fear of ridicule, loss of masculinity, or a sense of social gender roles being fractured many males never report the crimes due to these and other reasons.

Another reason we probably see fewer male rape cases in comparison to females is due to the biological makeup of the perpetrator. One way to look at this is taking into account that rape is primarily a way for someone to gain power over their victim. Let me make an example of something I am more familiar with in the world of criminology...female serial killers. Female serial killers usually need to feel some sort of emotional bond with their victims and many tend to murder for an emotional attachment to material objects or for attention. You will always see a heavier contrast in the ways females tend to carry out homicide, and a large percentage of them use poisoning to dispatch their victims. This is because poisoning has usually tended to be a slower method of killing, and allows the female to form an emotional bond with the victim during their suffering.

The reason I compare female serial killers to female rapists is that the overall motives are the same...an emotional attachment aggravated by the power over the male victim. Whereas, men for the most part commit rape for only the assertion of power and sexuality. This is one reason we tend to see many of these acts taking place in the females place of work (school teachers, etc.), or within their own homes (again, the emotional attachment to objects). Please realize that having said that I am talking in a general sense, knowing there are cases of females raping for reasons that usually tend to be exclusive to males.

I believe that due to the very nature of the acts female and male rape are completely different psychologically, and that because each victim will also respond differently as I've outlined, we're always going to see higher reports of males being the aggressor.

One more thing to add. Contrary to what many people believe the male erecticle reaction is involuntary. That is not to say that males don't succumb voluntarily, but the actual physical response in the male human brain is involuntary. This is one reason men often say they might become aroused in situations that such as rape, and that they feel their arrousal indicates their willingness to go along with the act, and hence the later feelings of loss of masculinity and ridicule.

 

Populist rag (IMHO)

Are righties the majority? How are you measuring that?

Numbers...male rape is prevalent, such cases as you refer to are rare.

None of which prevents men from simply being faithful and safe from risk of false allegations.

 

Just like the methods of avoiding rape: Don't dress too sexy, don't lead guys on, don't be in situations alone with guys. Not rocket science. . .

 

It's not about sleeping around.

Women have made false allegations of 'rape' within long term relationships and marriages.

True rape is a low crime.

Fabricating a rape allegation that is false is also low.

Neither should be tolerated in court.

 

I disagree.

Rapists do not discriminate.

They would equally rape a virgin as they would a more liberal female.

Your need to know someone's consensual sexual past implies that if a women sleeps around, someone she is bringing rape on herself.

I think not.

No one, not a prostitute or anyone, should have to accept that.

Rapists are dangerous and often sociopathic.

They need to be hunted down at every opportunity, and locked up.

For as long as possible.


Jack

 

Viv is right.

Not disagreeing with your previous point, in principle, but using the Daily Fail as a source only damages your arguement.

Up to you.

 

Daily Mail = conservative and claims a 50% female readership. Therefore, you may draw your own conclusions.

 

Nowhere in my post did I suggest that society take any form of leniency towards rapists. All I want is for society to be open and honest enough to acknowledge that all too often, rape is a two way street. Had you or a loved one been the victim of this type of rape or studied its horrible consequences in law school like I did you would agree.

 

I don't rape because it does not even occur to me. Therefore, the y chromosome is poisoned. Too bad humanity.

 

Lesbian rape:

http://www.rmdglobal.net/she-stole-my-voice/


http://www.curvemag.com/Curve-Magazine/Web-Articles-2010/Lesbian-on-Lesbian-Rape/

''it is estimated that one out of three lesbians have been sexually assaulted by another woman.”

Imagine what people would say in this society if one third of all straight women were raped.

 

There is something inherently strange in how men perceive women, sex and relationships in general. That whole sitting at home with the family and pretending to be decent while watching 100 kinds of porn and just being able to overlook the horrible abuse of women, really can't be considered too deeply or the total wrongness and hypocrisy of it would have to put you off men forever.

It's a bit more complex and bigger than the current generation. I've read "Romantic love" is a medieval construct. Both genders buy into it but some men seem to resent it and go along with it publicly and think other not very nice things in private. Some use it cynically with younger/gullible women (which perhaps is a factor in the stats regarding rape). At worst, it's a construct which makes women more susceptible to becoming prey. Romantic notions of heroic males, which men play into whilst they are not at all romantic really and it is only used as a way in. To attract a partner and reproduce, they require to observe at least some of the romance and love norms, but privately some seem to be thinking of women in a different way altogether.

However, whereas women appear more immersed in romance and love, that all works very well for women. Because that is observed in society, it's not the norm for women to be bashed over the head and dragged into a cave by the most violent. Through romance, marriage etc, women have some chance of control, attracting a male and putting him through hoops to establish his worth and the level of control she may exert over him, before he even gets close to reproduction. Then there is also a better chance of his remaining monogamous and being involved in the upkeep of offspring.

Perhaps women don't think of rape, because they have developed a better way.