Why I'm against the financially devastating plan known to us as: "Flattening the Curve."

I am going to go out on limb here and offer a really crazy idea.

Could the cure be worse than the disease in a very real sense. Think about it. Dad and mom have lost their jobs. Bills will go unpaid, most likely for months. The children are underfoot because of school closures. The average family has permanently lost thousands of dollars in their retirement savings and investments. It will take years to get back where they were a few weeks ago, if they get it back. They can't go anywhere. They are ordered by politicians to stay home and all sports are shut down. No NBA or NHL championships. No March madness. No Masters, and all golf leagues are cancelled. The start of the baseball season has been postponed.

Will this cause an increase in stress? Of course, and in a major sense. It is reasonable to assume the murder rate and the suicide rate will go up, as people go nuts and frustrated, unable to correct the many concerns they have or find relief in leisure activities. The death toll from covid-19 is quite small in the U.S., 288 in three months.

The suicide and murder rates are already high in the U.S. It is reasonable to assume that there will be a sharp increase in those numbers caused by the solutions the politicians have come up with regarding the coronavirus.

Crazy, huh?

 

I don't agree.

Our healthcare capacity is being outstripped. And, it is being required to keep people alive.

It's true that we do't have the full story on this disaster. But, we do have data. And, experts tell us what those data mean for our future, should we fail to take action.

 

Yes. Very crazy indeed!

This comparison of suicide deaths from pandemic difficulty to a comparison of 288 deaths from Corvid-19 in the past 3 months is either complete cluelessness about the math and damage from pandemic disease or simply more of Republican propaganda to reduce stock losses by unbelievably minimizing the deaths and illness from Covid-19.

Three months since the inception of the disease here (less than 300 deaths) has no comparison whatsoever to even a single month of the coming illness and deaths, and the additional deaths and illnesses because the hospitals will be overwhelmed even by then!

In Italy, the hospitals (which are likely more equipped than the USA for this because that country works together) are taking away the breathing support for older, seriously ill people to give the support younger patients who are more likely to survive! The crying, the desperation, horror at a time the older patient condemned to die can't even have their family, ANY of their family or spouses for their horrable dying deaths that often take days is breaking down the most seasoned doctors and nurses, especially when it is another doctor or nurse who they have known for years!

So thus the Republicans and Trump will are guaranteeing that death for many thousands or more by this half measures, lies, the refusal to prepare American people by Trump's BS to not prepare America, and the Republicans to refuse to get Americans ready!

Shame to ALL of you! You are killing Americans!

 

There has never been one airborne virus that has been stopped by any isolation measures.
End of story

 

No its not

 

It isn't airborne, hence why distanciation works here.

 

So the claim of airborne is bogus?

 

Yes. It propagates through body fluids, like droplets when you sneeze or saliva, tears, cerumen... Hence why they say to sneze in your elbow, wash your hands and don't touch your face. Also, keeping a 1.5m space between people reduced the chance of getting those droplets on you.

It's also the reason why wearing a mask or gloves is innefective since you may still be infected if some drop makes it way into your organism when you remove said gloves and mask or you have some on your clothes when you get back home.

 

Yet there are claims of mass potential spread, like 80% of the population, only possible with airborne community spread.

So which is it?
Sounds like the histrionic politicians are trying to ride both sides of the fence?

And yes, they have claimed airborne, whether substantiated or not

 

The droplets are airborn when you sneeze, but the virus by itself isn't carried by the winds...

It's because the virus can live up to 3 days on hard surface and longer on living tissue like skin.
The only way is to avoid contact with people who may potentially carry the disease. Which mean distanciation and isolation. This is also because the virus as an incubation period of up to 2 weeks meaning that people may be infected and have zero symptoms for many days. Isolation helps in reducing the risk.

 

That's not what airborne means

Generally people are shedding large quantities of virus within 2-3 days of innoculation.
That is not a 2 week intubation

 

It's up to two weeks, hence why the quarantine period is 14 days.
Airborne disease means that the virus would live and be present in suspension in the air by itself. It doesn't, it's borne by the bio fluid droplets, saliva and other bio fluids all of which doesn't stay in suspension in the air.

 

That's not for incubation period.
That's time for the immune response to knock down viral load to the point that you're not shedding live virus

It means aerosolized.

 

Oh stop it with the semantic games. You know damn well what I'm saying, your just being argumentative for the sake of it.
I'll take the advice of my health care system over you if you don't mind.

 

Well maybe you should try understanding what is being said, and not verbalize **** you don't.

Aerosolized droplets and 14 days not being the incubation period are not semantics

 

Get lost buddy.

 

If yer gonna type **** on a forum trying to look like you understand the science, either understand it or say thank you when corrected

 

UGH: Israeli Doctor in Italy Says They No Longer Allow Those Over 60 Access to Respiratory Machines.

Considering the median age in Italy is 47, that’s an awful lot of people being denied care.

 

That doesn't even make any sense.

I give up, where did he say that?

Oh w-a-a.