Why Trump needed shutdown distraction...Given “Hundreds Of Millions” In Russian Money

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    No. I'm worried that the uranium delivery was a cover story concocted by Clinton, and Mueller. Read back ... check my link to The Hill's article. Mueller met with Rosatom officials he was investigating. Investigating for trying to recruit Clinton.
     
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    So a far reach to create smoke with zero corroborating facts? Got it.
     
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    Nunes / Trump are not related to the State Dept. cable, circa 2009. Neither Nunes / Trump were involved with Muellers Uranium 1 investigation, his plea deals with 11 of 12 Russian spies, or his issuance of a gag order to an FBI mole to conceal the crimes. Eric Holder, AG, who also signed off on Uranium 1, had no intention of exposing the Russian scheme. It's taken 8 yrs for the facts to emerge. It is Nunes / Trumps unfortunate obligation to see the corruption is weeded out.
     
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    tRUmp(& defacto no-credibility transition team Nunes) are both RUssian defacto assets that are both compromised.....that's part of the basis for the legal SC criminal investigation. That's why Nunes created a RW "memo" & can't show it to the FBI, lol.
     
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    I presented you with "water" ... http://thehill.com/ ... Fact, Mueller travels to meet Russian energy officials (Rosatom) 2009. Fact, Mueller investigating Rosatom officials trying to recruit Hillary Clinton 2009. Fact, Mueller charges 1 of 12 Russian spies. Fact, Mueller issues gag order preventing FBI whistleblower from infoming congress prior to approval 2010. Pick a fact and debunk it.
     
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    Your story is over a YEAR old, what does it have to do with the Schumer Shutdown?
     
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    Nunes wants to show the memo to the world ... The FBI however seems to have misplaced 5 months of it's own communications. :confuse: Did Russians hack the FBI's database too?
     
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    Dude, your first link has zero to do with you second link and you never even address the questions posted relating to your first link yet. In stead you moved on ignoring the questions and ran toward the second link you posted that had zero to do with the first link (you posted) that was supposed to support your first link which you have now abandoned? Get it yet? It's called a shuck & jive rabbit hole and you are stuck with pure smoke screens.
     
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    Nunes CREATED the memo.......it's RW talking points and then he claims peeps don't want it public. HAHAHAHA! That's just trying to create a scandal. Show the memo to the FBI if it has any merit?
     
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    Uh ... the first link establishes Mueller, as per official State Dept. cable, was sent to Moscow to meet Rosatom officials, by Secretary Clinton. Uh ... the second link establishes the FBI, Mueller, had Rosatom officials, and Secretary Clinton under surveillance in 2009. Part of a Russian racketeering investigation into Uranium 1. You can't spin your way out buddy. Pick a fact, debunk it. Mueller is dirty, end of story.
     
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    Nunes wants to show the memo to the world.
     
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    Yeah sure OK........Good Luck with this smoke screen bro, I have already destroyed it for what it is, you just can't give it up.
     
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    He created it, he owns it, release it. Who again is stopping it?
     
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    It's Schumer's failed shut down. If you can't even get that basic fact right it says very little for the rest of your blather.
     
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    You've destroyed it by refusing to address it? Bravo! When did you establish Mueller DIDN'T travel to Moscow for Clinton? Or that the FBI, Mueller WASN'T at the same time investigating Clinton, and the Rosatom officials Mueller met with? I missed THAT reply. I saw ALL the Nunes, tRUpmp, shuck n jive nonsense. Dizzy yet? :spin:
     
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    Address it? It's conflated made up nonsense that you are holding onto like a life line. Good luck to ya as the timelines don't support it.
     
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    Adam Schiff mostly ... but not stopping, just delaying. As for your earlier question ... why the FBI hasn't seen it. Nunes memo was written for, and delivered to, the DOJ's IG. Along with recommendation(s) that special counsel be appointed to bring criminal charges. Those charges to be brought against the FBI.
     
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    Show me where Schiff actually is blocking this or where Schiff said he doesn't want it released. Nunes CREATED the memo, Schiff can't stop it from being released. Your logic is flawed by stark reality. Nunes is just trying to create a narrative to hide the fact that he created this. Now run along and find me proof that Schiff is actually blocking this? Tks.
     
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    So the State Dept. cable is a forgery? Mikerlin wasn't the only 1 of 12 Russian spies convicted of racketeering? Mueller wasn't involved in the Uranium 1 investigation ... didn't meet with Rosatom ... didn't impose gag orders? Waiting for you to refute a single point is as hopeless as watching you waiting on "sooon" to arrive. :roflol:
     
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    Providing you proof is a pointless exercise, as you've demonstrated time, and again. When pressed for proof yourself ... "sooon" ... "Mueller's on it" ... spare me the sermon reverend.
     
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    So you can't? Why am I not surprised. You claim Schiff is blocking Nunes with Nunes' own created property and them can't show actual proof that Schiff is blocking the memo. That's called purveying smoke AKA propaganda.
     
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    Propaganda is threads like this that can't stand up under the slightest scrutiny. Trump didn't need a shutdown, but he clearly benefited from it. Not as a distraction, but as a showcase. Democrats failed miserably. No DACA, no concession at all. DACA is finished unless Dems cave on chain migration, ending the visa lottery, and building a big beautiful wall. Which means a (D) "win" on DACA, isn't a win at all. Not in 2018, not in 2020. But, once the wall is up, liberals won't have to scream at the empty sky. Trumps wailing wall will be open for business. ::): MAGA
     
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    I don't need to think about who is really stupid in this instance. And its neither of us.

    YOu aren't stupid enough not to know that the russians were all over him and his campaign. I'm not stupid enough to try to prove something that isn't a crime, in and of itself. OTOH, we both know there are all kinds of other laws that surround that kind od unethical relationship.

    Russian mob members don't get screwed by fat flabby big mouth american real estate developers. They sorta have rules of who and how their loot is treated by the people they recruit. And donnie just doesn't rate on their "tough guy" chart.

    Mueller will deal with Trump. Meanwhile you'll be delighted to know that the Department of Defense, believes the russians attacked america and have changed the national defense strategy to defend and aggressively respond in the new battlespaces. Good news for americans. REally bad news for vlad and his gang. Seems china's free ride is over too (but thats a tougher nut).
     
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    Uhm the Russians breached the WH and the State Dept along with the Pentagon long before the 2016 election. Then the Chinese breached the State Dept and the Office of the OPM.

    Moreover the Russians have been meddling in US elections since the 50s.

    Bottomline even they were surprised Trump won.
     
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    Yes, the latest DDP "double buckle" to Trump on the shutdown has driven the what niw passes for the left nuts.

    "Charles Chamberlain, executive director of the liberal group Democracy for America, said Democrats can't expect to win elections if they back down from a fight every time they take a punch.
    "Today’s cave by some Senate Democrats was not only a stunning display of moral and political cowardice, it was a strategically incoherent move that demonstrates precisely why so many believe the Democratic Party doesn’t stand for anything," Chamberlain said. "If you want to know why we lost in 2016 and why a Democratic wave in 2018 is far from guaranteed, despite the deep level of disgust for Donald Trump, look no further than this weak and profoundly disappointing cave from Senate Democrats."

    NBC, Schumer's rare double-buckle on the shutdown infuriates Democrats on the left, BY JONATHAN ALLEN, POLITICS JAN 22 2018.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...s-democrats-n839946?__twitter_impression=true
     
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