Why was Ben Carson not smart enough to understand what vetting is?

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really don't get it, do you?

    MANY people are very smart in ONE or even several areas of their life, and total morons on many other areas.

    In fact, it seems that a genius often has lots of deficiencies in social and other areas.

    Have you ever heard of "idiot savants?"
     
  2. Unifier

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    No, I get it plenty well. You can't play the race card against a black man. And you can't attack him for being black or you'll be called racist, yourself. And this makes you guys really, really angry. Because your go-to argument has now been taken out of your hands. Usually when this happens, history has shown that you guys like to play the pervert card. You used it against Clarence Thomas and you used it against Herman Cain. Yet interestingly you did not use it against Bill Clinton. Proving once more that it's an argument you only use against black people. The problem here is that you can't even use that argument against Dr. Carson because he has lived such a squeaky clean life that you literally can't find anything to attack him with. He's been a model citizen and that eats you guys up inside because his honesty and goodness expose your own crookedness and wickedness. You can't be the good guy if your opponent has more integrity. So all you're left with is calling him stupid. Which doesn't hold up at all under cross examination for all of the reasons I've already explained.

    So again. Just admit it. You don't like him because he's black.



    No, he's simply black. If he was white, you wouldn't be calling him stupid. You'd be calling him racist. But since you can't call him racist because he's black, you just call him stupid instead.

    Hence you don't like him because he's black.
     
  3. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    You can't be too smart if you make up stories about Yale professors giving you a ten spot for being honest. Usually a good grade, not money; and then there is the Popeye story where he told the armed robber that he wanted to the guy behind the counter. The guy is a lying loon.
     
  4. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another RIDICULOUS commentary! Are you projecting?
    Let me remind you that I am a very big supporter of President Obama. . .another BLACK man!
    I would support him if he was White, Yellow, Green with pink polka dot. . .he just happens to be Black.

    Same with Carson. . .I WOULDN'T support him if he was White, Yellow, or Green with pink polka dot. . .because his comments make no sense, I don't trust him, and he would look like a fool among world leaders! Trump is bad enough. . .but Carson is actually worse in term of being dumb as a rock for everything. . .except his very specific field of expertise (where I understand that he was not devoid of making mistakes either, by the way!).

    I do not vote "Black or White!" I vote IDEAS, records, humanity, empathy, and fairness as well as leadership qualities. Now, Trump (whom I really don't like and think he is a buffoon), has at least some leadership qualities and some creativity in his field of expertise. . .business bankruptcy!)

    Carson has NO leadership quality at all. . .never needed it, as he his field of expertise is mostly in isolation, with a whole team of helper to SERVE him.

    Skin color, religion, economic background are ALL immaterial when selecting a President.
     
  5. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    Since you accuse those of us who see Carson for what he is--a megalomaniac, pathological liar, deceiver, and the anti-Christ (lol) of being racist, you owe to yourself and to those of us you accuse of being racist to read this article on the Binder twins from the Washington Post. An interesting and yet very sad story. While his patients and their family suffer horrible aftermaths from the surgery, Carson is becoming famous for performing the surgery. He should be famous for it, but not because he it was a miracle like Carson would like to believe. Please read the article. About Carson's success in separating conjoined twins:
    The Binder twins from Germany: both survived but with serious brain damage.
    The Makwaeba twins from S. Africa: both died
    The Banda twins from Zambia: all we know is both survived. I would bet both with serious brain damage.
    The Bijani twins from India: both died.
    The Block twins: one lived, one died.
    Five sets of twins: 5 lived, 5 died. The ones that lived are no doubt brain damaged.

    The article for your perusal.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...b5f900-88c1-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html
     
  6. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    No, if he were white, and deformed a little girl, I would think the same. The fact that you have no issues with it at all says a lot of you, mainly that you are an inhuman monster with no soul.
     
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  7. PatriotNews

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    I don't know why you insist on calling Obama, if that is his name, The Great Flatu, I thought his alias was Barry Soetoro, but okay.

    I think Obama, if that is his name, aka, The Great Flatu, aka, Barry Soetoro is not smart enough to know what vetting is because
    he thinks we can vet thousands of Syrian refugees aka terrorists. We only have enough FBI personnel to watch 60 to 70 people
    24/7. We currently have 1,500 suspects with terrorist ties in the United States.

    Here's what it will sound like after the terrorists attack the United States on our homeland, "Why wasn't the FBI watching these guys?!"
     
  8. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    No; it means that some are not so biased as to be incapable of seeing that a person is not actually capable of the kind of thought processes necessary to be an effective President, even if that person happens to be black.
     
  9. Merwen

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    Obama is IMO a much more politically capable person. He is probably a feeling oriented intuitive. Not only did he study Constitutional law, but he had at least some political experience.

    Carson IMO is a detail oriented (sensing), feeling oriented person. I do not believe he would be mentally nimble enough to deal with complex, quick moving situations. This might not be the case if he had more detailed knowledge of political issues, but people like this generally like to have all the facts, in multiple forms, before coming to a decision. In the course of a day, this would slow him down too much, I feel; I doubt he would keep up or feel comfortable enough about his decisions to be effective...and some of the mental shortcuts he took in the past do not indicate the level of reliability desirable in such an important position.
     
  10. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you think a brain surgeon wont be able to handle quick decision making. But...and this is the great part...you think a member of the choom club is more experienced. A guy who had zero executive experience and a guy who is a pathelogical liar and who has made a fantastic unbelievable string of the worst decisions ever seen in modern times by a sitting President. I mean we cant evem call him that...a President is a leader and he hasnt performed this duty yet. Americans have needed to turn to the Russian President to lead the eradication of ISIS because the President of the United States wont. Its a historical first that will ensure Obama is recorded as the worst President.
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

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    You seem to be re-living 9/11/01.

    And, I really suspect that you are being deliberately obtuse this time. Your seething contempt for the twice-popularly elected leader of the nation (whose current 49% approval/47% disapproval figures underscore his middling performance) tempts you into appearing so clueless in the matter of sobriquets.

    In the illustrious tradition of your Dubya contriving marvelous monikers such as "Turdblossom" and the Secret Service's penchant for apt code names, "The Great Flatu" is, of course, directly based upon the British slang meaning of his name.

    In regard to the scaremongering, the known terrorists in the Paris attacks were all from Europe, and the authenticity of a passport found at one of the sites has been called into question.

    The irrational hysteria some promote to further their ideological agenda evokes one of the ugliest chapters in U.S. history when a ship of Jewish refugees fleeing the Third Reich was turned away from Florida in 1939 for repugnant, political reasons.

    Paranoia can be exploited, but those who do not learn from history ...



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  12. PatriotNews

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    I'm hoping to avoid another one, but Obama, if that is his name, aka, The Great Flatu,
    seems to be doing all he can to facilitate one.

    47% disapproval underscores the seething contempt that 47% of the public have for a twice elected
    popular leader and nobody understands your non-humorous sobriquets or what that word even means.
    I just intend to nullify it by misapplication of it. I think I'll have more fun with it than you that way.

    Go ahead and call Obama, if that is his name, The Great Flatu, see if I care (see how
    it's working already?)

    Yeah, but they weren't Protestants and Catholics. Plus you are ignoring the threat posed
    by ISIS themselves who have said they will infiltrate the refugees and carry out attacks
    in Europe and America. There's that.

    FDR's antisemitism prevented Jews from immigrating because they were Jews, not because
    they were muslim terrorists. But we conservative do appreciate how the left will not hesitate
    to draw a comparison between murderous radical islamists and innocent Jews.

    1,400 years of murderous terrorism by Islam is something that isn't taught, but should be taught, in our classrooms.

    F
     
  13. TomFitz

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    They are reliving 9/11. They're putting on another outburst of chest beating, sabre rattling jingoism, which is their way of hiding the fact that they're actually cowering in fear.

    They're all yelling that we should start something, anything that looks like action, and worry about the cosequences later.

    That's what created ISIS.
     
  14. Natty Bumpo

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    They may be as much in denial as in the case of non-existent wmd stockpiles, mobile bio-labs, terrorist training camps, nuclear centrifuges, and all the other phony pretexts for contriving Dub's multi-trillion dollar Iraq fiasco, but Tony Blair has confessed to its contributing to the rise of ISIS (reminiscent of Gippy's funding and training Islamic militants to fight Russians in Afghanistan at a time before radical Islam was a concern of the US. Reagan's mujahideen developed into the Taliban, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.

    There are, inevitably, consequences that demand objectives not be short-sighted on a Mr Magoo level.

    Now, the jingo brigade is mincing forth to courageously confront desperate refugees, including orphans, already victimized by extremists.

    Some may regard these snivelers as loathsome pantywaists in their throwing aside America's moral principles and fleeing responsibility.

    I just wave bye-bye.
     
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    You may want to read more credible sources.
     
  16. PatriotNews

    PatriotNews Well-Known Member

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    I know I was here 1,400 years ago instigating Arabs.

    I wonder who that might be. They should be offended.
     
  17. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And not to mention the fact that they are reacting exactly as ISIS wants westerners to react. The fear mongering media these people subscribe to is giving ISIS their much coveted publicity while these people play right into the hands of ISIS and their scare tactics propaganda.
     
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    I don't care what color Carson is.. He claims that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain.. He claims he has better intelligence on China and Syria than the President, he claims he had a violent temper, and he can cut his ties to a friend who is a felon. I think he's peculiar and lame. I really don't want anyone in office who pimps his religion.
     
  19. Amadeus

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    Columbus committed greater atrocities than ISIS on behalf of Christianity. That should be taught in American classrooms, rather than sugarcoated and glossed over.

    Terrorism within Islam is actually relatively new (about a century old). During the height of the Ottoman Empire, Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived side-by-side in relative peace. It was just a matter of paying your taxes, then you were left alone. In fact, the Ottoman Empire was comparatively liberal by the standards of the time (certainly more liberal than its Christian counterpart).
     
  20. PatriotNews

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    Today's rewrite of History brought to by the word "Genocide"
    And by the slaughter of 1,000,000 Armenian Christians
    And by our sponsors, the Ottoman Empire

    Who by the way, came into existence as a result of 800 years of unrelenting assaults to the
    Byzantine Empire by muslims finally resulting in the fall of Constantinople. Sugarcoat that.

    I would say that ISIS has long ago surpassed Columbus in the atrocities department. I would
    also say that it is very offensive to compare Columbus to terrorists. Columbus was an explorer
    and an administrator. Yes, he was brutal against insurrections, but what leader isn't? ISIS is
    not putting down insurrections, they are murdering innocents.
     
  21. PatriotNews

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    I think Obama, if that is his name, is reacting exactly as ISIS wants Westerners to react.
    He is cowering and pleading with the West and republicans to accept the muslim hordes
    that will help hasten the demise of the West and at the same time he is promoting the
    notion that islam is a religion of peace because he is a wimp. Obama is not a leader, he is
    a battered wife and ISIS is his husband.
     
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    No, it means Ben Carson has continually stuck his foot in his mouth after his ill advised entrance into the political arena. Advisers are now coming out and saying that Carson doesn't understand what they are saying when they try to bring up to sped on foreign affairs. This is a man that is not on the top of his game. I wonder if something happened to his health after he retired that is affecting his brain.
     
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    Dr. Carson knew he would be vetted. He wrongly assumed in the goodness and decency of people to not make up crap they pulled out of their nether regions.
     
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    That's interesting. Republicans were being played like a fiddle by al-Qaeda post-9/11.

     
  25. tecoyah

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    Thus far, it seems it was Carson instead of the Media doing the pulling...Unfortunately for Carson the media is doing what it does in a vetting situation, you know, reporting on the stuff they find.
     

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