Will 2017 be the hottest year evah?

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Will 2017 be the warmest year ever?

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  2. Cooler

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  3. No Change

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Taking a poll if you think 2017 will be the hottest year ever. Feel free to explain why you think you are right.
     
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    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201605

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/99-percent-chance-2016-will-be-the-hottest-year-on-record/

    Edit: Forgot the important part

    Still from Scientific American.
     
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    NASA says July was hottest month on record...
    :omg:
    July was hottest month in recorded history, says Nasa
    Tuesday 16th August, 2016 - Earth has sweltered through its hottest month in recorded history, according to Nasa.
    See also:

    Melting glaciers pose threat beyond water scarcity: floods
    Tuesday 16th August, 2016 -- The tropical glaciers of South America are dying from soot and rising temperatures, threatening water supplies to communities that have depended on them for centuries. But experts say that the slow process measured in inches of glacial retreat per year also can lead to a sudden, dramatic tragedy.
     
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    It seems obvious the Earth temperatures are increasing, all data indicates this on the whole. Thus is it very likely the temperatures in 2017 will be higher overall than 2016. As we are experiencing highs almost every year it is likely to be labeled the highest again....our records do not go back very far.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    We certainly had a spike that is now on the decline for the 15-16 El Nino event like we had for 98. The question will be if it is followed up by a La Nina event. Too soon to tell.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Which data? The new adjusted data called the 'pause buster'? Hard to tell what the real temperature is since they keep readjusting the data so show the past cooler and the present warmer.
     
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    It probably will be if trends continue.
     
  9. AlpinLuke

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    Keep in mind that in Europe conservatives are environmentalist as well [here environmentalism is bipartisan, it hasn't got a political orientation].

    Anyway, I've got so far problems to understand that "pause buster". I don't see it. But I still have to consider in deep the data.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    The pause buster data has to do with NASA including a paper by Karl et al. that revised the ocean temperatures by weighting it more heavily to the problematic ship intake and overboard bucket temperatures and away from the buoys that were designed for taking scientific temperature records. This supposedly removed the pause in the surface/ocean temperature record that does not show in the satellite data.
     
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    Well, in these last decades we [at least in Europe], we have done something to reduce and control greenhouse gasses emissions. So that a pause in the so called "global warming" wouldn't be that incredible.

    This said, are you suggesting that NASA public communication is "politically oriented"?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yet no CO2 reduction according to measurements.
     
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    Eh ... the CO2 Europeans have "saved" has been produced by the Asians [Vietnam, India, China ...].

    Anyway, personally [like several important scientists here in Europe] I tend to give more importance to methane as greenhouse gas with water vapor. Methane and water vapor are well more concerning that CO2.

    But this said, I repeat the question: are you saying that NASA data are politically oriented?
     
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    When every 'adjustment' makes the past cooler and the present warmer and further away from other datasets such as both satellite datasets, you decide.
     
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    Now you make me curious ... [think that in the 90's I had a NASA account ... but this is a different tale].

    I have to check those "adjustments".
     
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    I did not vote because the answer I would choose (and I suspect most others would choose) is not listed, that answer being "I don't know".
     
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    What I want to know is if we'll finally get hot enough that Northern Virginia will finally stop getting regular frosts. It would be terrible, of course, but at least I would stop having to move all my potted plants indoors and outdoors constantly.
     
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    I don't know how we could possibly know the answer to that question considering we only have .00004% of the earths life so far in temp data.
     
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    This is a descriptive, not normative question. That there's a poll on it seems odd to me. The laws of physics don't care what your or I or anyone else thinks.
     
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    Doesn't stop government and alarmists from stepping in it.
     

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