Will gays FINALLY start to condemn religion after Orlando Islamic gay slaughter?

This cleaning up of Gays was not done in accordance with the Judeo-Christian Bible which calls for the pushing or throwing off a clif as the proper way that good God fearing Christiansand Jews are commanded to cleanse the world of gays.

 

This "Jesus" fellow APPROVED of the other barbaric texts in the Bible, of course: Matthew 5:17-18, American King James Version: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

You seriously don't think the Bible says to kill gays, and that gays are (apparently) such scum that that hater-in-chief (Jesus) will allow them into his bigotted country club in the sky? Jesus won't even let Gandhi in (12 verses state this sentiment), so he's not interested in letting in a bunch of queers, apparently.

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ISIS kills gays this way.
I see no difference between Biblical texts and Islamic ones. THAT alone should be enough reason for people to leave "Jesus", obviously.

 

Liberals want us to believe Islam is the religion of peace.

 

NO! If it's from or inspired by the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the entire universe I EXPECT MORE! Raise your standards, raise your expectations, when it comes to an alleged all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving creator of the entire universe. You give him a pass - you expect as little of him as you'd expect of, say, a person with Downs Syndrome, for example. 492 contradictions in his "best book of all time"?....apparently you have no problem with that - and I bet a person with Downs (I love them and admire their courage) could indeed write a book w/out 492 contradictions in it! So a person with Downs could do a better job than this all-knowing magic invisible friend who lives in the sky could do - so of course he's not actually real.
The list: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

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And conservatives want us to believe that the Bible is.

 

let me get this straight...

A muslim with terrorist sympathies goes into a gay nightclub & kills a bunch of people, & the OP wants to blame 'religion'? And others are blaming guns? Does the shooter & his ideology have no accountability in this?

This is more progressive, PC madness.. the inmates are running the asylum. Good is evil, & evil, good. The OBVIOUS problem is ignored, while deflections & distractions are promoted to deceive the American people.

The PROBLEM here is islamic hatred of Americans, not some generic 'evil' of religion. The premise of the OP is so far off it is absurd. Humans kill people, motivated by different things. If you can pin it on some anti-social ideology, then you can attack the ideology. But to blame it all on some vague sense of 'religion' is absurd & prejudicial. It ignores the very real inhumanity toward man of atheistic ideologies, which have been JUST AS, if not more murderous than any religious ideology, over the entire history of man.

Never let a crisis go to waste.. That is what is going on here. Trying to cash in on the sympathy toward victims of violent crime, & pitch deceptive propaganda at the same time.. it is disgusting. It is pathetic. But it is the New Progresso world they have created for us. Anyone ready to go back to the Old America? Truth, Justice, & straight talking? Look you in the eye, firm handshake, take no crap from anyone?

I am sick.. disgusted.. with the mealy mouthed, lying propaganda that is constantly vomited at us from a treacherous media, academia, the govt, & almost all of our institutions that have become infested with progressive ideology. It is a sick & twisted world view, that has only produced destruction & death. THIS is what they produce.. not Truth. Not Justice. Not security. Not freedom. They are the ideology of NOT. They only want to control & manipulate everyone, & destroy the American Experiment. I am sorry to see this once great nation fall to such demeaning corruption. I will likely not see the End of America, but i see it coming.. riding on the banners of Progressive Slogans, that turn lies into policy, & deception into truth.

 

Also, Christian are partly to blame for this attack - as they will never attack Islam's call to kill gays because they know they would look like hypocritical fools because their own Jesus-loving texts ALSO call for the same thing! Their Jesus-loving texts are keeping them from taking Mohammad head on about Mohammad's utter hatred for gays.

Christians feel morally superior to Muslims....they shouldn't be, of course, after a reading of the two texts.

Too bad Jesus is not actually real, or at sometime in the last 2000 years of "watching over us, keeping us safe, and answering our prayers to find our keys", he would have come down and educated people, at least educated them, that the Bible got many many things wrong - thereby creating a far more just and fair and loving world. Too bad.

Here's a brutal set of pictures of the barbaric Abrahamic faiths in action (note the large barbaric crowd of Abrahimic faithers cheering all this on):

 

If this was a Christian, the progressive media would be losing their minds and using every opportunity to bash the faith and blame all Christians. If the shooter is indeed, Muslim, watch for everything religious to be swept under the rug.

America will never be free until we free ourselves from the chains of progressive powers in banks, media, and finance.

 

And here we go. Liberals trying to turn this into a debate against Christianity. What's wrong with people? It's not right to kill ANYONE regardless of religious belief, sexual orientation. And who is doing just that?

Kill the infidels,

In the case of homosexuality, how it is dealt with differs between the four mainline schools of Sunni jurisprudence today, but what they all agree upon is that homosexuality is worthy of a severe penalty.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Homosexuality

 

You can't blame the Bible for saying to kill gays, can you? I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but hopefully I'm wrong.

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The Bible says to kill gays, and so do the Islamic texts.
So we can agree that Islam and Jesus/Bible are both dead wrong when it comes to gays, right?

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Can we agree that anyone who stays in an Abrahamic faith that has texts that say to KILL innocent people (gays) is not a moral person?

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Great post, as always.

Yes, Islam will get a pass, yet again.....and more and more innocent people will continue to die as a result. Shame on them.

 

Within the context of Islamic thought, this attitude originated from the Prophet Muhammad, and since he is considered by all mainstream Muslims to be the Uswa Hasana (the perfect human) we find that the majority of Muslims still consider this harsh treatment of homosexuals to be justified.

Muhammad himself had stated, ....

“If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.


https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Homosexuality

 

It's Ramadan....Muslims practice their religion more feverishly during Ramadan. Expect even more carnage as we get further into their holy month.

 

The fact is, Islam is incompatible with Western democracy because Islam put's God's authority before man's desires. This is actually very moral in a theological sense, but the problem is that the they believe they have divine justification for these types of attacks.

This shooter is no different than the Christian abortion bombers - both feel they are doing what God wants them to do.

 

Wrong!!!!! Show me any Christian church that condones killing of homosexuals.

 

Excellent post, the best of the day.
Yes, will the gloves finally come off in dealing with the immoral Abrahamic faiths?

 

Religion should Only be used for Goodness and not Badness.

 

This is also what the Old Testament preaches. The only difference is, Muslims actually believe in God, whereas most Christians in the world are 'lukewarm' in faith and pick and choose. I'm agnostic so I have no dog in the fight - just my observation.

 

Show me any popular mainstream church were those intellectual cowards have the moral bravery to not bring forward the verses that say to kill gays!! Show me!! Cowards!!

 

That's your desire, but that's not how the Abrahamic religions view life; morality and law is not based on humanity's desire. God, in the Old Testament, murders innocent people and orders his followers to do the same. All of this is deemed moral, theological, to the believer.

 

Life was simply more difficult in the Age of Iron. Now, Religion should Only be used for Goodness and not Badness.

 

Why are you obsessing over the bible, when it has NO BEARING on this event? The shooter was a MUSLIM, with terrorist sympathies. He was not a bible thumper, or a homophobic christian. The attempt to correlate these is absurd & bigoted.. there is no causation that you can pin to the bible or christianity, here, in spite of your deep hatred for them. All you do is expose your own bigotry.. you do not make any rational correlation or connection.

If you wanted an honest discussion about this issue, you would have to examine the motives of the shooter, his ideology, & what part it played in his actions. Maybe he was a jilted lover.. or some gay person offended him at the bar.. but to try to pin the rap on the bible & christians is so far out there it is not even close to being a rational discussion. This is pure propaganda.. lies told to promote a narrative.. big lies, repeated often for the purpose of molding public opinion against a group. Your groupthink loyalties have blinded you to clear thinking, & all you can do is pitch propaganda.

It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners. ~Albert Camus

 

That's because their god is not actually real - a real god would of course be "religiously" followed. Their god is also so barbaric, so savage, so despicable, that they deep down know he's not actually real - this psycho committed genocide against virtually all humans, and even against all innocent animals(!), in his barbaric "flood".....he even did that because HE made a mistake, and was trying to rectify it! Incredible! He created the faulty humans that he then had to slaughter and start over. He couldn't even take responsibility for his own mistakes. Their invisible magic friend who lives in the sky is a terrible, terrible role model.

18 verses in the Bible say that JESUS IS GOD, so that genocide was likely (according to the Bible) actually committed by Jesus. Jesus was very violent, as that psycho said "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword!" Psychotic.

 

Yes it should be.....

Liberals believe in abortion (bad), Christians don't (good),
Liberals bear false witness, (bad), Christians are taught not to (good),
Liberals covet what others have (bad), Christians are taught to earn it (good)
Liberals say they believe in free speech but call you names if they don't agree (bad), Christians believe in free speech (good),

 

OF COURSE IT DOES! Christians know they can't condemn Mohammad/Islam because their very OWN texts say the very same thing that Mohammad/Islam do (to slaughter gays, and that gays are such scum that Jesus won't let them into heave)!! So Islam will get a pass on this, yet again.

Buddhists wont' condemn Islam because they don't dare want their own religious texts to have a critical light shed on them either - the 32,000 foot-tall beings that are in Buddhism would be laughed at, of course, for example.

Let's see Obama say "The Abrahamic faiths need reform, this slaughter of innocent gays has been going on too long, and it must be changed at the underlying level". That moral coward won't say this.

 

Or maybe he was just following his god's instructions!! Did that ever occur to you?

What's to keep Christians from following their god's exact same instructions? Nothing, that's what! The hatred in the religious texts must stop.

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You really don't believe that the Bible says the same thing that Islam says, do you!?

 

Gays will never criticize radical Islam.

Both hate "traditional" America, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.