Will Raising Taxes Cause The Rich To Leave The United States Or Are They Bluffing?

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Join us on welfare instead of leaving the United States?
     
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    misterveritis Banned

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    Let us assume you are right. Those who figured out how to provide a good or a service that many of us wanted and were willing to pay for it got rich by making our lives better. What business is it of yours? And under what authority does the federal government get involved in deciding the rich don't need the property that is clearly theirs?

    I believe there are many of you who are eager to plunder your neighbors rather than learn how to create wealth yourselves.
     
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    Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. Good riddance.
     
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    I admit that I have looked over Belize.

    I hate the idea that I have to fight half of Americans to retain my freedom and liberty. I have enough wealth to stop working in the very near future. It is tempting to leave you to your fate.
     
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    So? There are some people who see life as a game and wealth as the score. That is the beauty of America. You can be free to do that without a guilty conscience. There is no such thing as immoral levels of wealth.
     
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    Taxing the wealthy out of the country is the new America, wealth is created so lets say they do accept the new high expatriation tax and take whats left of their wealth out of the country, we will still thrive without them.
     
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    Do you believe you are thriving with them? How much less so without them. Your enemy is your government. And you, of course.

    We have met the enemy
     
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    Do you believe you are thriving with them? How much less so without them. Your enemy is your government. And you, of course.

    We have met the enemy
     
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    Government can create jobs, we don't need the wealthy.
     
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    Government has never created a single job in the history of mankind, not one. Businesses create jobs by coming up with an idea for products and services in demand, providing that product or service, and then expanding as they experience success. When enough businesses do this, they create a prosperous economy. They actually create wealth. Government never creates wealth, it only subsists off of the wealth and success of others. No government job is possible unless the money from that job were first extracted from hard workers, producers, and job creators. Anything government does is a net loss because its resources are drawn from the productivity of the nation. Government is instrinsically incapable of productivity, therefore it can never create a job.
     
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    Government has created jobs all through history, all the wars for example.

    In America the people wanted their tax money to go to rebuild General Motors and Solyndra, one worked and one failed but that is the risk that comes with investing in business and it is acceptable.
     
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    Government does create jobs. Government jobs. People work their little butts off....producing nothing. And it will work so well. Pay those government workers 100K a year, they return a percentage of it in taxes. That percentage is supposed to go to paying their next years salaries, plus all the other government expenses. Does anyone understand math? one cup of water does not fill a bucket.
     
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    The Marxists who ran the Former Soviet Union believed as you do. What ever happened to them? Or yeah, they murdered about 20 million of their own people and had 70 years of nearly uniform poverty.

    Of course the Democratic Party, uh, I mean the Communist Party of the Soviet Union political leadership did manage to provide the best of everything for themselves.
     
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    I agree the government can create jobs. But it has a horrible record of creating wealth. All governments, throughout all time have consumed the wealth that others have created. Ours is on a trajectory to be among the worst that have ever been.

    The wealthy are wealthy because they have created things that enrich all of our lives. In the process of that exchange the wealthy have created enormous new wealth.

    I understand your desire to plunder your neighbors. For now you have a government that is very willing to do precisely that.
     
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    Both of your examples were money laundering. The government, in the person of Barack Hussein Obama took legitimate tax dollars and gave them to the unions and his biggest donation bundlers. The unions and the bundlers got rich. Obama received contributions from them. Those tax dollars passed through the unions and Obama's friends right back to Obama and the Democrat party.

    We who produce and pay nearly all of the taxes recognized the con game. Still you got what you wanted. You got a government willing to follow its Marxist ideology to our doom. Marxism always looks good at the beginning. It will not take long to realize that you screwed up in a way you may never recover from. Liberty, once lost, is seldom regained by the people who lost it.
     
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    I love absolutists. I need one example and you've lost. So, when old Pharaoh said drag that stone and build my tomb, you were wrong. Every monarchy disproved your argument thousands, nay millions of times. Please at least try to provide a challenge. Don't be deliberately stupid.
     
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    Capitalists who run the US murdered tens of millions of native Americans and held tens of millions of Africans as slaves and the result is a big ass debt , wars with third world nations , a non existed social state and whiners , millions of whiners.
    Your point ?
     
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    Some will leave some won't they will almost all change there investment strategies. More capital will flow to third world countires less will stay here meaning fewer jobs here.
     
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    Will Raising Taxes Cause The Rich To Leave The United States Or Are They Bluffing?

    Just think of the places where they'd be welcome (other than prison) and I think you have the answer: who except primitives and deadbeats needs bullying thieves?
     
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    Do you have to work to come with up with ideas that are so bizarre and idiotic or do they come naturally?
     
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    How in the world can we survive without some CEO hacking other people's jobs every 6 months??? What the hey....let's take a shot huh???
     
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    They are going to go to the new nations made when the states secede.
     
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    13 cents an hour...the new "high" wage....I can't wait.
     
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    Idiots it's not so much that they will leave, though a few certainly might, as it is that they will change their investment strategies shipping more money and more jobs overseas. Why invest here when your pay off will be reduced by a much smaller percentage in some other country?
     
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    Like they weren't going to go with the "most profit" to begin with....All about the MOST profit....always is...always will be. Anything else is self diluted. Kissing the wealthy's azzes only insure our demise as a society.
     

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