Will Trump ever be Held Accountable for Jan 6th

Yeah I know. And the earth is flat. And Biden's a pedophile. And 9/11 was an inside job. And we have perpetual energy and can vibe electricity through the world to China.

 

NO CONVICTION LISTED ANYWHERE FOR ANY ASSAULT< MURDER< "carnage" or "mental abuse (LOL). Does that last issue, the "abuse" thing have to do with spanking? "Grounding"? LOL

NOTHING... NADA.... BPKUS. YOUR OPINION ISN"T LAW. IT's JUST OPINION.

 

Yes... you are one of them. because the only thing you've stated here that is correct is that Biden is a pedophile... in fact , according to his daughter's diary, you'd have a good case that he is an incestuous pedophile too. (Besides being a total liar and fraud his entire career... what kind of people continually vote for such a person? )

 

Gotta another one who states the exact opposite of reality... his screen name should have been a big clue. Looks like he shows up every now and then to spew nonsense and to try to incite chaos. These people have to be paid, right? Or is it someone's very poorly constructed bot? None the less, There has to be someone paying to spew this kind of lies and idiocy

 

Get a grip man! This TIME article has a comprehensive list of all the people who told Trump, in person, to call off the horrific mob, while Trump watched the carnage on TV.

https://time.com/6199490/trump-jan-6-oath-dereliction-duty/

At one point, former White House Counsel Pat Cipollone recounted for committee investigators all the officials who asked Trump to try to quell the violence on Jan. 6, including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, White House lawyer Eric Herschmann, Deputy White House Counsel Patrick Philbin, White House Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino, National Security official Keith Kellogg, and Trump’s daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner.

Those people are all Republicans, but you're not going to listen to them. You're going to listen to all the lies and deception from the mouth of Donald Trump.

 

Which news source(s) do you consider credible?

 

Mobs do not have a "on/off" switch. Once they get rolling, they roll until they run out of energy, which, on Jan 6, was only a few hours.

"Carnage"??? LOLOL.... you must live in a bubble. There was no "carnage". A few broken windows? Yes. Carnage? LOL... no. Want to see "carnage"? Look up a town in Japan called Hiroshima circa 1945. Or Dresden. Or even Kenosha or Milwaukee during the Black Lives Matter/ Antifa riots.

"Carnage"... LOL... like calling the remains of a New Year's Eve party... "carnage"... LOLOL.

 

Soooo - that makes it all ok?

 

If this had been BLM would your opinion be the same?

 

Yeah, it was like a picnic. The facts, from in-depth interviews --->

• Lost Lives: A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people died in connection with the attack.
  
  
• She was positioned near a friend from her shift, Brian Sicknick, when they were hit with chemical spray directly in their faces. Edwards’s hands flew to her eyes as she bowed down in pain and stumbled. Sicknick retreated to wash out his eyes, then returned to the fight. Another officer escorted Edwards, her lungs searing from toxic spray, away from the scene to get medical treatment.
• Hoyte was pulled into the crowd, yanked so hard that his gear ripped. Someone beat his hand with a pipe; another rioter swung a piece of scaffolding at him before he was able to tear himself free. He ended up trapped with another officer in an enclosure beneath the inaugural stage, its doors, embedded with electric circuitry, serving as their barricade. Injured, he spent hours there surrounded by a mob that kept trying to break through those doors, unable to leave as chemical spray rained down between the planks of wood overhead.
• Dominick Tricoche was off duty but drove to the Capitol after a fellow officer texted the unit’s group chat saying something serious was underway at the Capitol. Fighting, plunging into the crowd to try to help another officer who had been swarmed, he wept chemically induced tears, as if his body’s physical reaction matched the grief and terror he felt in a crowd he was certain wanted to kill him. His eyes felt as if they were merely receptacles for pain; even the air seemed to be on the attack. “Traitor! Traitor!” the rioters chanted, as someone flung a bike rack at him and he fell down a flight of stone stairs.
• He looked down over a railing and saw, one floor below, some close friends from the midnight shift huddled over a body in uniform. He rushed to direct the E.M.T.s to the right elevator. When he joined his friends, he saw that the person they were helping was Brian Sicknick, Edwards’s shiftmate. He realized that a day that he thought could not possibly get even more horrific just had.
• In the Rotunda, Dunn collapsed against a wall beside a fellow officer, openly weeping. In a raw moment that would reverberate beyond that day, he called out in anguish: “Is this America?”

And the answer to that last question - "Yes this is MAGA America".

 

When asked who I am voting for, I say, "Nobody who is an election denier". With this in mind, the answer to your question - "No news source that's been convicted of airing lies."

 

There are many ways to indirectly ask for something without being direct. For example White supremacist groups often call for lone wolf actions / heros to step up and "fight the corruption" or some crap like that. Which really is code for, go nuts and kill or hurt people on your own.

 

Spare me the 'dog whistle' fallacy. If we start claiming code words are calls for violence, any and all speech against the govt will be 'code words.'

Shall we declare that 'abortion' is code for child sacrifice and 'election integrity' is code for voter fraud? Lets avoid the subjective BS and stick to what's provable.

 

It was NOT peaceful. There were weapons there, people got injured and the Decratic process of electing thePOTUS was interupted with attemps to intefere......and obstruct. Staff were threatened , so fear and anxiety was felt by the peple working there.

No biggie?? For real??? Then we did not see the same event. Are you so accustomed to VIOLENCE now that it has become the norm in the nations collective consciousness?? IF that is the case.it is a very sad state of affairs for the nation.....but mostly for the jaded peple that occupy it.

 

He DID say it was "no biggie"....(which one can translate into acceptable )

 

The Trumpian insurrectionists had no problem understanding what Trump meant when he spoke to them. To them his words were a call to action. ( prevent the electoral process that would get Biden into power) They heard the words "fight fight fight"...... and took them to mean go into action ( to get Trump back in power to "save" the nation" Many have paid forit. But have they learned anything or mended their attitudes/ ways?? Hard to tell.

 

In answer to your original question - Which option for "Trump didn't tell the rioters to riot"?

If that's the way you feel, don't pick #2. Trump was not charged for Insurrection by Jack Smith. This would have been very difficult to prove. Roger Stone had a lot of ties with the Proud Boys. He had used them for security in Oregon, and there were pictures of him with some of the members around Jan 6th. But those aren't crimes or conclusive evidence. Also, one of the Oath Keepers testified that Stuart Rhodes was in contact with the Secret Service, prior to January 6th. However that's hearsay.. Smith may have had more, but obviously he didn't think it was enough to get a conviction. I said yes to #2, mainly because Trump did nothing for 3-1/2 hours. My thinking is that he wanted the violence, and thus he probably also summoned these groups. He even told McCarthy in a phone call, "Well Kevin I guess they (the insurrectionists) love their country more than you." That statement implies that he thought the insurrectionists were doing the right thing. He also used a lot of violent language in tweets and in his speech on 1/6. One other issue, the Proud Boys started pushing and shoving at the Capitol before Trump's speech was over. So they were there for one reason - wreak havoc. I know my reasoning wouldn't stand up in a court of law, but given the Trump deranged mental state in December and early January, I used my gut feel for my opinion.

 

He won't spend any time in jail. He will stall and stall, appeal and appeal

 

He will try that for sure.. Will see how long his money lasts.....ie how long he can pay his legal fees. ( after he pays his penalties )

 

And? All metaphorical.

 

Yeh, everything your side does always is

From cheering on J6ers to the Republican conference applauding that Republicans are “domestic terrorists” and want to end Democracy.

 

Accept its NOT a fallacy, and a well documented occurrence. Go figure.

If you cant take facts, then there is no common ground to have a conversation, and I will just assume you condone their actions.

 

Five people were charged with weapons possession. Three of them were folks take to the applicable police station from other places that the Capitol. One was an authorized carrier... a DEA agent. The only person shot was an unarmed, female protester doing nothing more than stepping through a window. And she was shot by a cop. There was no "interference" with the Democratic process. Pence verified the vote and Biden took office. Staff were threatened much like bad pitchers are threatened at a ball game. Fear and anxiety were felt much like umpires feel threatened when someone yells "Kill The Umpire!" at a ball game.

You must be very young. Much more aggressive protests were routine in the 1960's and 1970's.
That's what happens when your Constintitution guarantees the right to protest and declare grievances.

The violence perpetrated by Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA from Minnesota to Kenosha and across the nation was much greater than that seen on 6 Jan.

 

Your rants continue to ignore reality. According to the 1/6 Bipartisan Senate investigation, seven people died because of associations with the 1/6 attack on democracy. And you continue to spout the narrative that an attempted crime is not a crime. Attempted murder is a crime. Attempted robbery is a crime. The False Elector scheme is a crime if proven to be true.

 

"1/6 Bipartisan Senate Investigation"?????

LOLOLOL... You mean the 1/6 KANGAROO COURT?

"The panel comprises seven Democrats and two Republicans all appointed by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She previously rejected several GOP members originally selected for the panel by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana and Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio — citing "statements and actions" made by the pair that she felt would "impact the integrity of the committee." Both Banks and Jordan had publicly expressed concerns over the panel itself.

McCarthy called Pelosi's move "an egregious abuse of power" and pulled all of his picks from the panel. The two Republicans who Pelosi appointed — Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger — have paid a high political price for their participation. And Cheney had already lost her top post within her party before the appointment."
(Who are the Jan. 6 select committee members : NPR)