Will USA Military If Ordered Fire On Americans

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  1. ArmySoldier

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  3. Guess Who

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    No but I would think that regular law enforcement could handle it. Now if it got to be 10s of 1000s that would be a different story i guess. Heck, LE now had military weapons to use including TANKS! And sadly foreign troops and the UN.
     
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    According to you....if a black man kills someone, than all blacks are murderers. That's what your doing here! Putting guilt on a group of people for the actions of one, or a few. BRILLIANT!!!
     
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    Lefties or righties, if there is a rebellion, the US military will put either or both at the same time with great efficiency.
     
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    You should lighten up if you want a successful career as an officer. Maybe times change, since I retired in 1998 (before you were born?) but "weekend warrior" is, indeed, a slight, but not Reservist nor member of the National Guard should overreact to it no more than you should overreact to being called a "lifer".
     
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    Ummm, the Bonus Army protests occurred during the Hoover administration. When FDR was elected, he did feed them.
     
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    The President breaking the law and the Constitution like Lincoln did? Possibly, but it would have to be a last resort.
     
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    During wartime, Presidential powers are pretty max, so, no, Lincoln broke no laws.
     
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    During wartime? Are you saying President Trump can declare war against California and it's all good?
     
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    That's you saying that, Max. :) If California tried to secede without the authority of Congress, Trump could send in the military, yes. He could federalize the CA NG, which means if any or them supported CA, they would be in violation of the UCMJ. Potentially they could face firing squads.
     
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    Do you think President Trump would be right or wrong to do as you've posted?
     
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    JakeStarkey said: That's you saying that, Max. :) If California tried to secede without the authority of Congress, Trump could send in the military, yes. He could federalize the CA NG, which means if any or them supported CA, they would be in violation of the UCMJ. Potentially they could face firing squads.
    If CA seceded without Congressional authorization, Trump would have the ethical and legal force of the Constitution behind him.
     
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    Depends on who they're ordered to fire on and why.

    If its a violent mob burning the city or nazis attempting a coup, then ya, the military wont hesitate.

    If its grampa and cousin joe resisting gun confiscation, most of the military would prolly revolt.

    In between those it gets sketchy.
     
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    Nope, grampa and cousin joe go down is what will happen.
     
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    I'd love to say "no", but they did in the civil war.
     
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    This ain't the 60's. Back then it was the left-wing liberals rioting.
     
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    Doesn't matter. Univ of MS white race riot that left several dead was brutally suppressed. Lefty or Right today will get is collective head crushed.
     
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    What about if just a bunch of liberals started rioting and burning federal property? Would he then be legal to send in Federal troops or nuke the site from orbit? You know, just to be sure. :)
     
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    JakeStarkey said: JakeStarkey said: That's you saying that, Max. :) If California tried to secede without the authority of Congress, Trump could send in the military, yes. He could federalize the CA NG, which means if any or them supported CA, they would be in violation of the UCMJ. Potentially they could face firing squads.
    If CA seceded without Congressional authorization, Trump would have the ethical and legal force of the Constitution behind him.
    When you get silly, you lose the gravitas you possess: just pointing that out. :) If the state can't handle a riot and requests federal assistance, you bet the feds can bust anyone's head or ass if they don't stand down when ordered to do so.
     
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    Just pretend this was still America. Don't states have rights? And is not the sheriff the most powerful man in the nation in his county?
     
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    JakeStarkey said:
    JakeStarkey said: JakeStarkey said: That's you saying that, Max. :) If California tried to secede without the authority of Congress, Trump could send in the military, yes. He could federalize the CA NG, which means if any or them supported CA, they would be in violation of the UCMJ. Potentially they could face firing squads.
    If CA seceded without Congressional authorization, Trump would have the ethical and legal force of the Constitution behind him.

    When you get silly, you lose the gravitas you possess: just pointing that out. :) If the state can't handle a riot and requests federal assistance, you bet the feds can bust anyone's head or ass if they don't stand down when ordered to do so.
    If I am in charge of a federal LEO task force in the county, and the sheriff gets in the way, I will have him detained until we are done with our mission. You need to go back and read the Constitution. What you are suggesting was settled 152 years ago.
     
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    No you bring in cops. And lock their ass up. Most of them are illegal one way or the other anyway whos not on probation is illegal. And then you have the self loathing fools who have been brainwashed by teachers and professors lock then up too.
     
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    I think your wrong about the sheriff thing. I don't think that was ratified. It may have been ignored and illegally enforced but it was never changed. Actually neither was the states rights. Not that it matters anymore than feds taking land likk Oregon that is 85% owned by feds. And HarryReid and Hitlery have had a ball selling off land to China and Russia.
     
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    Who knows how it would play out. Who knows if the crowd will have women and children.

    I thought you were hanging onto your pop guns to battle the military and now you tell us they won't fire on you. It gets so confusing
     
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