"Win with less votes?? Revolution!!!"

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Ronstar, Nov 11, 2016.

  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was actually enlarging on what you said but worded it poorly. Especially when I said "you". My apologies for the sloppy response.
     
  2. Borat

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    He and his administration will pass laws and you WILL abide by them. Which will make him 100% your president... The rest is childish nonsense which is totally up to you. Who cares who liberal elite lackeys salute to lol grow up and accept the fact that you blew it and he won FAIR AND SQUARE. :D
     
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    NO on all fronts! Ronstar you really need to come back to reality. You sound a bit unstable after this election.
     
  4. Gatewood

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    Revolt with what? Flung quiche pies or perhaps EBT cards? The Right is armed to the teeth and vast numbers of them have received extensive military training, or didn't snowflake safe spacer type leftists . . . notice?
     
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    Mythology about the illegals voting. No one on the right can prove conclusively beyond the idiot Limbaugh echo chamber myths that this is happening in a large scale.

    Trump lost the popular vote. Unsurprising since this election had historic low turnout.

    I think yhe republicans though in red map openly rigged the house through odious redistricting to insure they have a majority all the time for the next 14 years is actual, real, admitted election fixing. And it's not being discussed.
     
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    True enough as you state nobody knows on what scale Democrats cheat but if you read even a tiny bit of Wikileaks you know they do.
     
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    The electoral college was established in 1787 and the number of electoral votes were given to each State based on their populations. There's no other democracy in the world that conducts an election where the popular vote doesn't decide the election. Simply put, we Americans are casting a vote for a handful of people in their State to make the decision for them. There are States that were given a proportional number of electoral votes based on populous in 1787. But the populations of the States have change drastically since 1787 of course, but the electoral votes haven't. For instance, California has 55 electoral votes, but if the number was adjusted according to the population of California now rather than what it was in 1787, they would have at least triple that amount of electoral votes.
    If we could do nothing more than allocate the electoral votes on a population basis, it would make the system substantially more democratic. But we can’t do that, at least not without amending the Constitution, because the apportionment formula is embedded in the Constitution as one more inducements that the Framers felt was necessary to attract support of small states for ratification. Since the Republicans now control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, and they won this election through the electoral college, I doubt we'll be seeing any changes made to the Constitution in the next four years.
     
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    Ooooooh . . . nicely said!

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    No problem there. The Left has been considered revolting for quite some time.
     
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    Again... read redmap. That is real election fixing and is a real scandal.

    Additionally, I agree both parties do right elections. Look at the democratic primary.
     
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    Then change the rules. It really sounds like you need a nice safe place to have yourself a good cry Ron.
     
  11. nononono

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    NO !

    What you should is some factual data research and educate yourself as to what really transpired over the last sixteen years in respect to the elections....

    Then with your eyes wide open you might see the truth and stop with the ( " And should I get my tinfoil hat out to read it? " ) classic DNC operative responses.....

    The TRUTH is sometimes quite hard to swallow Mister....

     
  12. Dick Van Dyke

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    Sorry, lib, but you lost. Get over it. If Hillary had won the electoral vote and Trump had one the popular vote, you wouldn't be saying (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Those are the rules. The winner with the majority in the most states wins. This is to prevent dominance by any single state or a small group of states. If you don't like that, then start pushing for a Constitutional amendment. Big problem though since due to the radical Left policies of Obama and your promotion of corrupt criminal candidates like Clinton, the Republicans are almost at a 3/4th's majority of state legislatures that they control.

    What you should be doing is asking yourself why you keep clinging to your radical Left positions because millions of people in this country are sick of your (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Also, you must calculate all third party and independent votes and also those who refused to vote. Those people were either against or did not want to support Hitlery either. Also, she probably had millions in fraudulent votes, from dead voters, illegals and the like.

    Ding Dong, the Witch is DEAD!
     
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    Good luck changing the US Constitution on that one, the system does largely work, if one works within the Electoral process and it does give even the smallest states a bit of a voice go to the popular vote no president will even bother running ads or push in States like Idaho since the population doesn't match the higher population States like Pennsylvania.
     
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    You not only don't have them but clearly don't understand their uses. Give up before you start as I have all of them and they are very effective in all forms and uses !
     
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    I think you watch too many movies.
     
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    The number of representitives of each state does change thus changing the number or electors and has changed throughout our history, it is not a stagnant number, it is reapportioned after census are taken, that is the PURPOSE of the census.
     
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    Let's never forget that in 2012, Trump called for a Revolution because it looked like Obama won the Electoral College but lost the Popular vote.
     
  18. ArmySoldier

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    People flip flop on everything. It's politics. Hillary Clinton used to oppose gay marriage. Now apparently she's a huge fan of it.
    Flip flops are natural.
     
  19. JakeJ

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    Obviously not a brave man at all and it is nonsensical to claim it bravery since many make such a claim.
     
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  20. JakeJ

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    Even a revolution would not put your Jeb! Bush that you gambled your forum membership on into the presidency.
     
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    Oy vey....eight months in, and Hillary's Butthurt Brigade is still whining about America's 213 year old electoral process....
     
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    IMO..this ludicrous and tragic outcome should be a wake up call to get rid of this archaic election process known a the electoral college.
     
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    I'd be fine with giving each State one equal vote(IE: Tearing down the electoral college), but you do know that the blue wall then doesn't exist right? It'd turn into winning a plural majority.
     
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    Do Gruber's Stupids realize the number of EC electors are representative of a state's population? Are they aware Hillary received almost a third of the necessary votes for victory by winning only two states out of fifty....Cali's and NY's 84 EC votes?
     
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    The Democrat party doesn't believe that, that's why they have super delegates. The DNC will decide who the nominee will be. Somehow that doesn't bother you.
     
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