Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Stats....

The criminal element if predominantly from Single Mother Families, they apparently do not get accustomed to authority and respond poorly to it in schools and out.

70% of all violent crime is by kids raised in Single Mother homes.
The system of Welfare has destroyed the Black Family.
Whole cities can not be inhabited safely enough to make the vast number of properties valuable enough to even collect property taxes from.


SAN JOSE, CA - Bill Cosby blamed parents for the shortcomings of students during ... continuing a theme the comedian touched on last week when




TEXT OF COSBY SPEECH:





Ladies and gentlemen, I really have to ask you to seriously consider what you've heard, and now this is the end of the evening so to speak.
I heard a prize fight manager say to his fellow who was losing badly, "David, listen to me.
It's not what's he's doing to you.

It's what you're not doing."


Ladies and gentlemen, these (white) people set -- they opened the doors, they gave us the right, and today, ladies and gentlemen, in our cities and public schools we have 50% drop out.
In our own neighborhood, we have men in prison.
No longer is a person embarrassed because they're pregnant without a husband.
No longer is a boy considered an embarrassment if he tries to run away from being the father of the unmarried child.


Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic and lower middle economic people are not holding their end in this deal.
In the neighborhood that most of us grew up in, parenting is not going on.

In the old days, you couldn't hooky school because every drawn shade was an eye.
And before your mother got off the bus and to the house, she knew exactly where you had gone, who had gone into the house, and where you got on whatever you had one and where you got it from.
Parents don't know that today.


I'm talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
Where were you when he was two?
Where were you when he was twelve?
Where were you when he was eighteen, and how come you don't know he had a pistol?

And where is his father, and why don't you know where he is? And why doesn't the father show up to talk to this boy?


The church is only open on Sunday.

And you can't keep asking Jesus to ask doing things for you. You can't keep asking that God will find a way.
God is tired of you.

God was there when they won all those cases -- fifty in a row. That's where God was because these people were doing something.
And God said, "I'm going to find a way."

I wasn't there when God said it -- I'm making this up.
But it sounds like what God would do.


We cannot blame white people.

White people -- White people don't live over there.
They close up the shop early.
The Korean ones still don't know us as well -- they stay open 24 hours.



Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca Cola.
People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake!

Then we all run out and are outraged: "The cops shouldn't have shot him."
What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?

I wanted a piece of pound cake just as bad as anybody else. And I looked at it and I had no money.
And something called parenting said if you get caught with it you're going to embarrass your mother.

" Not, "You're going to get your butt kicked."
No. "You're going to embarrass your mother."
"You're going to embarrass your family."

People with their hat on backwards, pants down around the crack.
Isn't that a sign of something or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?
Isn't it a sign of something when she's got her dress all the way up to the crack -- and got all kinds of needles and things going through her body.

What part of Africa did this come from?
We are not Africans.
Those people are not Africans; they don't know a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed thing about Africa.

With names like Shaniqua, Shaligua, Mohammed and all that crap and all of them are in jail.
(When we give these kinds names to our children, we give them the strength and inspiration in the meaning of those names. What's the point of giving them strong names if there is not parenting and values backing it up).


Brown versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We've got to take the neighborhood back.
We've got to go in there.
Just forget telling your child to go to the Peace Corps. It's right around the corner. It's standing on the corner.
It can't speak English. It doesn't want to speak English.
I can't even talk the way these people talk: "Why you ain't where you is go ra?"


Oh God, they're angry and they have pistols and they shoot and they do stupid things.

And after they kill somebody, they don't have a plan.
Just murder somebody.
Boom.
Over what?
A pizza?
And then run to the poor cousin's house.


Five or six different children -- same woman, eight, ten different husbands or whatever.
Pretty soon you're going to have to have DNA cards so you can tell who you're making love to.
You don't who this is. It might be your grandmother.
I'm telling you, they're young enough.

What is it with young girls getting after some girl who wants to still remain a virgin.

Who are these sick black people and where did they come from and why haven't they been parented to shut up?
To go up to girls and try to get a club where "you are nobody...."

This is a sickness, ladies and gentlemen, and we are not paying attention to these children.
These are children.
They don't know anything.
They don't have anything.
They're homeless people.

So, ladies and gentlemen, I want to thank you for the award -- and giving me an opportunity to speak because, I mean, this is the future, and all of these people who lined up and done -- they've got to be wondering what the hell happened.

Brown V. Board of Education -- these people who marched and were hit in the face with rocks and punched in the face to get an education and we got these knuckleheads walking around who don't want to learn English.

I know that you all know it.
I just want to get you as angry that you ought to be.
When you walk around the neighborhood and you see this stuff, that stuff's not funny.

They're faking and they're dragging me way down because the state, the city, and all these people have to pick up the tab on them because they don't want to accept that they have to study to get an education.


We have to begin to build in the neighborhood, have restaurants, have cleaners, have pharmacies, have real estate, have medical buildings instead of trying to rob them all.

 

While it does seem that anyone who, as you suggest, is "White and goes to Church" should be despised, denigrated, and relegated to the status of vomit in our politically-correct society, remember: Zimmerman is Latino! Ooooh... he's a minority, too! So, you hyperlibs had better treat him with respect accordingly, or risk having the ever-present race-card thrown at YOU!

 

You've been accused of worse things than criminal misconduct and violence?

If you've been accused of worse things, that reflects on you. And to want to broadcast it, reflects on you, too.

 

You are correct, brutha,

Your brethern are indeed the bad ones!

King Samir Shabazz "You Want Freedom? Kill Some Crackers!"

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The reason may well be what Alex Jones just said on his latest
YouTube.That most on the Left have been brainwashed.And yes,it
can now be done.This is no longer a - Farenheit 451 - novel.
The Government now has the capability thru our electronic
devices { now even kitchen appliance } our cell phones to
mind numb us.Not merely relying on the almost subliminal
messaging done thru Democrat talking pts. and things like repeated
- Hope & Change - or - Yes We Can -.
Repeated enough times these messages became part of one's
subliminal first mind thought.Eventually the brain becomes numbed,
lazy and finds comfort in merely capitulating and giving in to those
messages.

 

One thing is for sure, if he was chasing Martin, he wouldn't have been shot in the chest. Evidently there was some confrontation.

Another thing, I don't think the picture they have been showing of Martin is a recent one. The kid looks much younger than 17 in that picture. Perhaps using a younger more innocent picture of him can whip up some more feeding frenzy.

 

This may be another case of the media's knee-jerk reaction to an issue without first having ALL the facts. We should let the police and investigators decide based ON THE FACTS. A witness will go a long way in PROVING what actually happened. IF Zimmerman was, in fact, bloody and with wet grass stains on his back, then this would support that witness' account of what they saw.

In addition we now have facts coming from Zimmerman's father, a former judge, who says that his son is not racist.....is 1/2 white; 1/2 hispanic, and has many black relatives and friends. He also said his son recently mentored a young black kid, playing basketball with him and trying to help him.

Also, Zimmerman was on his way to the store when he spotted Martin walking through the neighorbood and since he was on the "neighborhood watch" patrol he decided to check it out.

My immediate reaction was that Zimmerman sought him out and killed him, but now as more facts come out; I don't know. So far there is no proof he was a racist just looking to kill someone black. And if this witness is as solid as he/she sounds, I'm beginning to have second thoughts.

This may end up being a case where Zimmerman was attacked first...and an unfortunate escalation of events that led to the shooting. But we'll soon find out.

 

yes,a woodie indeed may need a shed of clothes.

 

This is what is called REASON

Liberals, take note.

 

What a shock you can't prove that racist statement.

 

You are indeed correct, Rapunzel.

I love the way the Lefties in this group are all for the rights of the "black" man, but then in the same breath they deny these rights to anyone else!

They are a sorry, hypocritical and politically-driven lot they all are!

Here are the facts.

The weapon was fired in self defense.

There is an eyewitness who saw the entire event as it unfolded.

Trayvon Martin was punching Neighborhood Watchman when he was shot.flv - YouTube.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zEDBqvEauYU

 

What was the reason Martin attacked Zimmerman again ?

 

I don't think the "Stand your Ground" statute has a thing to do with this case. In fact, had it been Martin that killed Zimmerman, he could have used that defense.....if he felt threatened.

 

you jumping to conclusions about the guilt of others based on only an vague accusation speaks volumes about you.

 

you're going to have to ask Martin.

 

So the guy with the gun was getting beat by a 140 pound kid?

Let's examine that, shall we? A man with a gun confronts a kid for little to no reason, somehow the kid gets the armed man on the ground and is pummeling him while the guy has the gun?

I am sorry, but until the actual facts come out in the case, this newest story sounds as silly and unlikely as every other that has been put forth in defense of Zimmerman.

 

We don't know and since we don't know why are you convicting Zimmerman without knowing all the facts?

 

Cheese and Rice.

1. We don't know that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
2. We don't know that Zimmerman was racial profiling.
3. We don't know that Zimmerman attacked Martin.
4. We don't know that Martin was only walking through the neighborhood innocently.
5. We don't know that Martin was NOT walking through the neighborhood innocently.

We only know that:

1. Martin is dead and Zimmerman is not.
2. That there is a witness stating that she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman
3. That Martin's girlfriend heard some of the event
4. That 911 told the neighborhood watch guy that he should wait for police
5. That Zimmerman disregarded the advice of 911
6. That Zimmerman's gun discharged, killing Martin
7. That Americans love to make a huge partisan issue out of everything and enjoy swapping victimization back and forth.

 

Please stop fabricating facts that don't exist.

We don't know what started the confrontation or who started the actual fight and we absolutely do not know Zimmerman drew his firearm before the fight.

*MOD EDIT* Please do not make comments personal to the other poster.

 

We don't know, do we? That's why we can only say what "might" have occured.....because NONE of us have the facts....right?

I can certainly see where Martin might have ran from the guy, and if Zimmerman caught up with him to try and detain him (since he had already called 911).....then Martin might have feared for his life and attacked Zimmerman. That would certainly have been understandable.

Point is.....I don't YET anyway.....see any proof that Zimmerman was just "out to kill a black guy." One wouldn't first call 911 if that was the case.

 

One of the best posts on this topic so far.

 

Good point, JP5.

Martin could have easily wrestled the weapon from Zimmerman, shot Zimmerman and then the discussions today would be very different.

The "Lefties” would be telling us how justified Martin was in killing Zimmerman!

Will the irony in this remarkable case of victimization never end!

 

Stop with yer infernal speculation based on Speculation.
Just the facts Ma'am !

 

from what i've read, Zimmerman follows Martin, Martin asks Zimmerman if he's following him, Zimmerman says yes...goes to his car with his gun still in his pocket and somewhere in there, Martin starts punching and it ends with Zimmerman firing one shot.

act like a thug, die like one.