Woman gets tased, hand-cuffed, and arrested for "not wearing a mask."

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Exactly.

    Logan Police say the woman in the video, Alicia Kitts, was told several times to put a mask on. She reportedly told the officer she had asthma and was not going to wear it.

    The officer then told her several times she would have to leave if she wouldn't wear a mask. When she refused, he used his Taser on her shoulder in order to get her into custody.

    She was charged with criminal trespassing.

    "The police are doing their job exactly the way they're supposed to do, absolutely. I mean, textbook police work," community member Kevin Knight said.


    https://abc13.com/woman-tased-arrested-after-not-wearing-mask-at-football-game/6555132/

    Very sad.

    Another Anti-Masking Trump Supporter Engaged in Criminal Activity (and making life difficult for their hard-working police).:smh:
     
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  2. ChiCowboy

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    Tazing is an appropriate response to someone who resists arrest. Law and order.

    She wasn't tazed for not wearing a mask. She was tazed for not leaving. Cool story, though.
     
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    Wearing a mask during a pandemic is the farthest thing from tyranny.
     
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    Absolutely! You can obey or suffer the consequences. We have riots every night because people refuse to obey LEO's and want to blame the police. No difference. The right wing nut jobs don't get to pick when the rules apply and don't.
     
  5. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

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    And they still have to follow state and federal laws. Woman claims she has ashmia. Which if she does that means she has a disabiley and the ADA kicks in. She isn't required to wear a mask if she has disabiley in Ohio or anywhere in the US for that matter. So that right there makes this arrest iffy. 2nd, Ohio regulates you to social distance. From the video it looked like she was.
     
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    Mask mandates are not laws; they are executive orders.

    Even allowing for these mandates to have the force of law, there are exclusions permitted, one of which she apparently invoked (asthma). Even beyond that, she could have been excluded based on the EO's 6 foot rule, which allows one to be maskless if they can maintain a 6 foot distance from those not in her household. The lady with her was older; old enough to be her mother and quite probably was.

    Given the above, the cop went beyond his authority. The video certainly does not show him attempting to ascertain the circumstances or at the least calling for backup (which it seems like others in the stands were doing) before strong-arming the girl.

    What we are left with is a video that doesn't show the entire incident, but what it does show looks very bad for the cop.
     
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    I believe jurisdictions within the state can impose stricter regulations. The state requirements are minimum standards. That the arrest occurred and hasn't been challenged would seem to indicate something along those lines.
     
  8. pol meister

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    Well, I'm glad your fruit-bearing years are over because it seems as though abusive tyranny is the only fruit you're capable of bearing.
     
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    Well this kind of racism calls for riots, I mean "peaceful protests". I could use a free TV.
     
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    The school district obviously has stricter regulations than the state standards. If asthma were an acceptable exclusion to the school district, she wouldn't have had to wear the mask to get in. What the story tells me is that she knew exactly what she was doing. Lock her up.
     
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    I believe jurisdictions within the state can impose stricter regulations: As long as those standard don''t civil right laws like the ADA.

    hasn't been challenged: I believe this just happened this week so give it some time
     
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    Lolz. Thanks again.

    I'm such a tyrant.

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  13. altmiddle

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    One other thing I don't think has been mentioned, one reason this escalated so quickly is where it happened. Unfortunately we live in a world where we can take zero chances on school grounds. You start showing your a^% at a public school and the response should be swift and harsh to neutralize any possible threat to the children. This woman picked the wrong place to be defiant.
     
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    I agree, but don't see the Trump connection.
     
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    You're assuming a lot there.
     
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    I believe she got tased for resisting the arrest for not following the lawful order of a police officer.

    We are trying to have the school athletics here and they have already been face with having the games such down because of people refusing to wear mask as the state mandates require. Why should a few people who refuse the health guidelines be able to cause the games be shut down for EVERYONE including the students. And listen to the children recording it, YES you can arrest someone for not following the lawful orders of a police officer and yes at least in my state it's a $500 fine if you are not wearing your mask at such an event. Maybe the schools need to be doing a better job of educating the children and the adults backing it up.
     
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    Perhaps. Depends whether asthma is a recognized disability. And that would depend on the remedies available. She probably could have worn a shield, and I'm guessing there are masks for asthmatics.

    If this was a bad arrest, we'd know about it by now.
     
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    We seem to be raising generations who are taught that you "rights" mean you do not have to obey any laws and you do NOT have to follow the lawful orders of our law enforcement. It's the "ME" generation "I can do anything I want and you can't stop me". And they will probable vote for Biden who wants a FEDERAL mandate to wear mask.
     
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    While I find the idea of having to wear a mask outdoors ludicrous, the fact that she resisted arrest, quells any argument about her being tased. I argue here almost exclusively on the conservative side, as I am a big believe in law and order. She broke the rules, or "law" willingly. Then resisted arrest. No matter what you don't resist arrest. Have we not seen enough threads in here about folks who do? I would go peacefully with the officer. Even though I disagree with the "law" that she broke. I would bet she would not have had anything done to her other than release her outside the stadium. Now, she endangered a cops safety as well as her own. Charges can be filed against her.
     
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    If you can't tell the difference between getting ticked for running a red light vs. being tased, handcuffed, and arrested for sitting outdoors at a high school football field; then that's your problem, not mine. The seeds of tyranny are sown by those who fail to resist its tyrannical effects.
     
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    This ↑

    You can disagree with a mask order, but when you are impacting kids ability, seniors specifically, provide and opportunity to highlight their skills for college, you hurting many others.

    And as I've said with the BLM. Just listen to the officers commands, obey and wait for your time in court. Resisting arrest is the stupidest thing you can ever do as it puts your life in danger as well as everyone around you as a situation can escalate and others cant get harmed.
     
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    We're all assuming all kinds of things.

    From the information we have, we can deduce what happened. This does involve assumptions, but the assumptions are fair. I'll go over it again.

    If there was an asthma exception, the game would have been set up for that. The woman would have claimed her exception at the door, got her left hand stamped, and presented that to the officer when approached.

    You can call that "assuming a lot" if you want, but assuming what's normal and logical is often correct.

    I can also fairly assume the officer is aware of the laws he's enforcing. She was arrested for trespassing. The school is well within its right to restrict admittance to its football games, and the officer was doing his job by kicking her out.

    That she wore the mask while entering suggests she was aware of this, thus making the video her 15 minutes of fame.

    If you got something better, bring it.
     
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    The question to me would be that, given the exclusions on the Ohio mask mandate, is the cop making a lawful order?

    The cop at the least should have gotten a second officer there before the arrest so there would be more than just this video to tell the story. A second officer would have likely de-escalated the incident.

    Compliance is best, but it should be a lawful order in the first place.

    Regardless, the cop used bad judgement in strong-arming this girl. As we see, a second officer did become involved after the arrest. Had that second officer become involved in the stands before the arrest, likely there would not been a need for the arrest.
     
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    I think she used bad judgement in her behavior and resisting and I have no reason to believe she would have changed that behavior because she didn't when other officers got involved.
     
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    The County School Board President has announced he will be going to games throughout the country and checking and if persons in the stands are not following guidelines he will shutdown future games at those schools. So why should the minority cause such for the majority? If I am in the stands wearing my mask watching one of my grandkids and an officer spots someone not wearing one and they refuse and cannot provide proof of an exemption then arrest their arse's and if they resist use appropriate force including a taser if necessary.
     

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