World Health Organization under the microscope: what went wrong with coronavirus?

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  1. Josephwalker

    Josephwalker Banned

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    Exact quote please. Source it or you are talking out your ass
     
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  2. Josephwalker

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    I have no idea what “your” Russian labs are doing.
     
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    really have you not seen his comment on COV19 back in jan all the way to early march? here just a simple one, there are plenty more

    under control, it will be gone in few days lol. he been saying that from jan to march
     
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    Trump denied the virus originated in China? Really?
     
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    trump deny its an issue for america since jan till march. he basically downplay as seasonal flu and will be gone by april for two month. go check above video on timeline as he keep saying under control, be gone in couple weeks, etc etc
     
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    And as I suspected you completely misquoted him in your previous post.
     
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    lol, what fake quote, are you in denial or are you just realize trump been downplay this thing for month
     
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    The subject we were discussing was whether or not the virus originated in China, not Trump.
     
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    What exactly should Trump have done and said way back then? Before you answer remember that Bidden accused him of fear mongering with the China travel ban.
     
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    There was no quote in the post! You can now carry on with your Trumpism
     
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    I'm so sick of funding these America Hating Internationalists.

    DON’T TRUST CHINA. CHINA IS ASHOLE. How China Corrupted the World Health Organization’s Response to COVID-19.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) put out wrong guidance on how to deal with the coronavirus, refused to initially communicate the magnitude of the threat, and it colluded with the CCP to whitewash the Chinese government's early handling of the crisis.

    There's no doubt that the WHO's response destroyed much of its credibility, damaged the field of public health, and failed to contain the pandemic.

    The WHO's actions in response to COVID-19, in part, stemmed from its open slobbering stance towards China.

    "A phenomenal collective action by the people of China to this response" is how Bruce Aylward, head of the joint WHO-China mission, described China's handling of the outbreak on February 25, 2020, a day after WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus praised China's "rapid response," which he claimed "changed the course of this epidemic."​
     
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    German Intelligence is reported to have found that WHO helped China conceal the epidemic for 4-6 weeks while 5 MILLION people left Wuhan for all over the world, seeding the Pandemic.

    Another government catches them lying:

    "We Sent Them Samples Of A Goat, A Papaya & A Pheasant": Tanzanian President Catches WHO In Epic Lie
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    When the president heard the news, he reportedly confronted the WHO, then kicked the organization out of the country.

    As the number of confirmed coronavirus cases explodes across Africa, the creeping involvement of the WHO has made some leaders suspicious of the NGO. Tanzanian President John Magufuli was growing suspicious of the organization, so he decided to investigate whether the organization was as trustworthy and reliable as it claimed to be.

    He played what the local press described as "a trick" on the organization: He sent the WHO samples of a goat, a papaya and a quail for testing.

    All three samples reportedly tested "positive". When the president heard the news, he confronted the WHO, then kicked the organization out of the country.

    Perhaps Bill Gates can regale us with "data-based arguments" about why the WHO is indispensable to the international effort to combat the coronavirus.
     
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    World Health Organization under the microscope: what went wrong with coronavirus?

    ~ China.
     
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    The leader of Tanzania imported a large number of bottles of hair tonic as his own version of Trump's "Miracle Cure" for COVID, so apparently the COVID won't be troubled by deaths from that disease.

    Just to make sure, that same leader sent goat samples and other garbage to the local companies and he claims they were were all tested positive!

    Of course, this preaident has no documentation or information of his "rest", but presumably that was likely an adjunct to his supply of COVID CURE Hair Tonic.

    The thing is, we can understand some nutcase leader in a pathetic country saing these craziness, but the Trumpies seem quite happy to produce this crazy dictator as "truth" in a educated discussion.

    But I suppose some Trumpies actually believe a guy like this and tries to clame it is a reason the USA should do similar things.

    SAD!
     
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    Clickbait bovine excrement from your zerohedge disinformation source that has ZERO CREDIBILITY again? :eek:

    You do know that reflects poorly on anyone who uses it as a source, right?
     
  18. Zorro

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    Much of your post nothing more than self-stimulation "Orange Man Dab!", and has nothing to do with my post that you were responding to, have fun indulging yourself.

    The leader of this African nation is not alone in noting that the WHO is an untrustworthy trafficker of dangerous propaganda.

    German weekly Der Spiegel, has a bombshell: The BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst or Federal Intelligence Serivce, Germany’s equivalent of the CIA — in a report that is otherwise critical of Trump— says the following:

    “Nevertheless, to the BND’s knowledge, China urged the World Health Organization (WHO) at the highest level to delay a global warning after the outbreak of the virus. On 21st January China’s Head of State Xi Jinping, during a telephone conversation with WHO leader Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, asked the WHO to withhold information on human-to-human transmission and to delay a pandemic warning. According to the BND, China’s information policy has resulted in the loss of four to six weeks worldwide to fight the virus.” [*]​

    [*] original wording: “Nach Erkenntnissen des BND drängte China die Weltgesundheitsorganisation WHO allerdings nach dem Ausbruch des Virus auf höchster Ebene dazu, eine weltweite Warnung zu verzögern. Am 21. Januar habe Chinas Staatschef Xi Jinping bei einem Telefonat mit WHO-Chef Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus gebeten, Informationen über eine Mensch-zu-Mensch-Übertragung zurückzuhalten und eine Pandemiewarnung zu verschleppen. [new paragraph] Nach Einschätzung des BND sind durch die Informationspolitik Chinas weltweit vier bis sechs Wochen für die Bekämpfung des Virus verloren gegangen.”
     
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    I see.

    I must have been mistaken! The post I was replying to was from a "Zorro", and since a large part of my reply was about a nutcase leader criticizing his country's testing lab as fraudulent (sadly, with no information or details) and instead boosting hair tonic to rescue his populous.

    Since I am posting that screwball's quotes, I am at a loss on how that makes me "self stimulating". Since Trump was doing the same situation of boosting worthless and deadly drugs, it seemed appropriate.

    Der Spiegel are very similar in wanting "Bomb Shell" headlines of occasionally dubious reliability.

    But whatever the source, Spiegal (likely) or the BND (who knows?), it was not a very good source because WHO was already telling the world in press releases that COVID should be handled as transmission human to human:

    It was no secret that COVID 19 was transmissible OFFICIALLY!

    This constant propaganda that somehow none knew and China "tricked us" and WHO and Dr. Fauci was in the pay of the Chinese is just utter BS.
     
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    So tRUMP is scared of Biden and won't do things if Biden disapproves?

    What does what Biden says have any bearing on what tRUMP does or doesn't do? Is tRUMP not the leader? Doesn't the buck stop with him? Skip the last one. He already admitted to having no responsibility.
     
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    Guess you missed this:

    Less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic.

    “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the organization had said.​

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-h...a-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/

    The Lying Outlaw Chinese government knew the disease was spreading before the tweet was sent, according to the South China Morning Post.

    University of Southampton study found there would have been a 95 % REDUCTION in cases & less spread if Beijing intervened 3 wks sooner.”

    German Intelligence reports that Xi asked Tedros not to announce that the virus could be transmitted between humans and to delay any declaration of a coronavirus pandemic.

    It took until the end of January before the WHO declared that the coronavirus outbreak needed to receive international attention. Because of China’s delay, the world wasted four to six weeks it could have used to better counter the spread of the virus, the BND concluded.

    Nice job trying to cover up for the Lying Outlaw China government and their stooge at WHO.
     
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    Trump's been right the whole time about the Lying Outlaw government of China.

    We find folks on the Left though, that can't seem to suck up hard enough or fast enough for the Outlaw Lying Chinese line.

    Left-wing Law professors for ‘speech control.’

    “In the great debate over freedom versus control of the global network, China was largely correct, and the U.S. was wrong.” So write Jack Goldsmith and Andrew Keane Woods, law professors at Harvard and the University of Arizona, in the Atlantic.​

    “Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values.”​

    So much for the First Amendment. Hey, as Vox’s Ezra Klein might say, that was written in the 18th century, and it’s the 21st century now. So private firms such as Google and Facebook are censoring the internet, in line with government policy, elite preferences, or international organizations. YouTube now pulls and refuses to permit videos based on recommendations by the World Health Organization, the organization which, early on, parroted the implausible suggestion by China’s regime that there was no human-to-human coronavirus infection.

    For those who find this alarming, they should remember that this is not the first time in history that a new communications medium threatened existing orders and thus became subject to what Goldsmith and Woods approvingly call “speech control.”
     
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    Try to keep up. Trump instituted the China travel ban that Biden called fear mongering
     
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    Wrong on all counts as usual!
     
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    Update:

    The evidence is pretty clear. COVID's origins were a lab in Wuhan, China.

    China bears plenty of blame for this.
     

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