Would a truly evolved society eat animals?

Well, of course we know that in nature ...animals eat other animals...yet humans like to think of ourselves as being above the lower animals ...yet are we?

In the early times of our existence it was a necessity to get food wherever you could find it...but now with our technology it is no longer a necessity to eat other animals..we have food sources available that makes it possible now to be a vegetarian which has also been proven to be healthier than eating meat.

Yet tradition is hard to break...people grow up eating meat and thus develop a life long taste for it...ignoring all the poor suffering animals.

I remember driving on interstate 40 one cold winter night...and seeing a lot full of cows somewhere in Arizona standing ankle deep in mud ...so many,many cases of animal abuse but very few are concerned about it.

I used to be the same way but a lady friend gave me a Himalayan cat...which completely changed my view on animals...they are much more complex and aware than most understand...with capabilities we are still ignorant of...as in the stories of cats that travel long distances to get back to their homes which they were removed from.
http://www.petmedsonline.org/record-distances-travelled-by-lost-cats.html

 

If people didn't eat animals there would be no animals.

 

I was canoeing and a cow had wandered down the bank and was going down slow in the mud. I had a snatch block and 750 lb. nylon rope (normally used by me to tug a loaded canoe up a steep bank), but with only a mechanical advantage of 2 I couldn't pull her out. I put 2 in her brain and continued paddling.

It's a hard land, always will be. Killing is as natural as breathing.

A lot of human meat gets killed on the road and by drugs.

 

a healthy society today would eat animals....

but someday we may get to a point that all your nutrient needs may be met by a synthetic food stuff... but we are not there yet

I have no issue with early adopters becoming vegans, they can find all the problems and nutrient deficiencies and we can learn from them

 

Man can not live on Twinkies alone.

 

I wonder how many animals die due to soybean (or any type of) mass farming? Does anybody think that a vegan diet doesn't result in the deaths of animals?

 

I don't think they care about those kinda animals though, or they would be against pesticides

can only have so many fields and not all land is good for fields

when they can replicate meat in the lab perfectly, things may change, but do not expect it to be perfected in my lifetime, so I wont be going there

a growing human population is the biggest threat to animals, regardless if humans eat farmed animals or not

 

Besides not getting B l2 vitamin in vegetables are there any other nutritional deficiencies in vegetarianism?

 

But not just insects. Bunnies shredded in the harvesters, froggies crushed by tractor tires, veggie eating varmints poisoned, deer and possums ending up as roadkill as the 18-wheeler hauls the grain, we could go on and on. And we would need to address the loss of animal habitat from the monocultures that are created.

 

oh I agree, pesticide harms them too, as well as those big machines going through the fields and the loss of land space taken up by the fields

 

that is a big one, may be others we do not even know about

we are also learning that high carbs is not good long term either, so much to learn

let vegans be vegans for a 100 years or so and we can use them as guinea pigs, learn from them

 

B12 has nothing to do with it. Large scale farming kills an uncountable number of animals. Soybean burgers are tainted with the anguished and horrific cries of slaughtered and mutilated animals left to die in the fields.

 

Death is everywhere. We try to hide human death. Take a long look in the Atchafalaya river and ten thousand animals just died within your view if your sunglasses could be polarized enough.

btw the bounty on nutria is up to six bucks.

 

the other problem is plants are becoming less nutritious then they once were, due to over farming and genetic engineering to last on the shelf longer

and fruits are sweeter more full of sugar then they once were, then they are picked before ripe so they also last longer on the shelves

commercialization of our food supply is a big problem in today's society

 

most vegans take b12 supplements nowadays, or at least they should be imo

I am more about the health, thus I prefer to eat meat... but I think someday artificial food could supply a human with all their needs

but I agree, not eating meat wont save the animals.. it will just mean they are not needed... and we know what humans do to things that are not needed

 

Lest anyone misconstrue my posts, I have nothing against anyone eating a vegan diet.

Tomorrow, I goin' out on the bayou with string and chicken legs, gonna catch me a mess of 'dem Texas Blue Crabs and have me a good ol' Low Country Boil. No problem with Vegans - but I do have a problem with holier-than-thou peoples tellin' me I ought not be catchin' and eatin' them delicious crabs.

 

Agreed. I haven't looked at "Beyond Meat" stock prices lately, but a few weeks ago it was soaring.

 

https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/guide/vegetarian-and-vegan-diet#2

"A meatless diet can be healthy, but vegetarians -- especially vegans -- need to make sure they're getting enough vitamin B12, calcium, iron, and zinc."

"Vitamin B12 is found naturally only in animal products. A lack of vitamin B12 can lead to anemia and blindness. It can also cause muscle weakness, tingling, and numbness. To counteract the increased risk, vegans should include B12 supplements"

I think this is the ones they are aware of now

 

one thing that bothers me is "fruits and vegetables" are often said together as if they are the same, fruits are natures desserts, too much dessert is not a good thing as it's too high in sugar\fructose

we even have people living on all fruit diets now, though that seems to be a dying fad (delicious I am sure at first)

the old saying too much of a good thing comes to mind

 

yeah, I see that in my supermarket in the middle of the meat section... I will pass - lol

I wonder how well it's selling sense vegans would have to go to the meat section to get it

just went to youtube for a review, sounds like it must not be bad tasting, so I could see vegetarians and vegans buying this

he says taste almost like a regular fast food burger, not like other vegan burgers he has tried

 

What really ticks me off is what has been done to corn. The breeders and GMOers have made it so sweet that it may as well be classified as dessert. You just can't beat so-called "field corn" - the kind that is used for animal feed - starchy and chewy, not sweet and mushy. You can't find field corn for sale any more. Only way to get it is a midnight stealth mission in the local farmer's field - but it sure is good. Especially in that crab boil.

Back to the OP's topic: Would a truly evolved society eat animals? Guess that depends on the criteria one would use to define a "truly evolved society." As for me, I ain't nuthin' but another one of the animals just trying to survive.

 

Murder death kill then eat.

 

That about sums it up.

Now, concerning cows... They have developed quite a cunning strategy to perpetuate the species. They grow wonderfully tasting steaks and burgers which makes the unwitting humans provide them with lots of habitat, food, and care. The species multiplies and spreads, the cows hardly have to do anything. Evolution has surprises around every corner.

 

Yeah man, but I'd hate to be a grazing animal. I'd much rather be a bloodthirsty predator.

 

Meat is apparently brain food. Most though scarcely all of the few vegans I have met in my life were at least a brick short of a load and at least one's elevator seemed seldom to venture above the ground floor.