Would Trump have won without Russia's help?

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Would Trump have won without Russia's help?

  1. Yes, because Russia didn't do anything.

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  2. No, because of all those things Russia did. Clinton fans were totally worried

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So how exactly did 'Russia help'?
     
  2. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    You saying you totally ignored the WIKI releases and don't know what was in them? WOW.....

    Why were these emails bad? The honorable people working at the DNC doing honorable things should of only helped Hillary when there honorable deeds came to light.
     
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    They will say because they hacked the DNC and released their emails to harm her. But they won't tell you why those emails were bad. Most don't seem to even know. Like they put there heads in the sand,:ignore:
     
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    Indeed - if the public had not known the truth about the corruption and incompetence surrounding Hillary and the DNC, Hillary might have won the election.
    Fortunately, all this information came out.
     
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    When you mash all the air bubbles out of it, the Democrats not only shot themselves in the foot, they blew both of their feet completely off!

    Think: if there had been nothing for Wikileaks to leak, then there wouldn't have been any Democrat "problems"! They made their own damned problems -- the Russians couldn't have invented any of this amazing crap (it was rooted in so much abject stupidity that nobody would have believed it they had tried).

    Conclusion: when you turn fundamentally ignorant, arrogant, irresponsible people loose with information technology, there is a great danger that things won't go like you want them to. Reflect back on all the big-wig Democrat luminaries, starting with Hilarity Clinton at the top, down through Podesta, Wasserman-Shultz, Huma Abedin, and all the rest of their three-ring circus. Take a really good look. What is the greater likelihood -- that they screwed up with their own negligence and stupidity, or that "the Russians" hatched a spy-novel plot to "hack the election for Trump"...? :deadhorse:

    Whatever your opinion might be, one thing remains an unchallenged FACT to this very day: NO evidence has been presented to the American public that proves "the Russians hacked the election for Trump"! But, there's an abundance of evidence plainly showing that many big-wig Democrats are evidently too stupid to blow their noses and wipe their butts without getting confused about which hand should do what, and in what order.... :cynic:
     
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    If these supposedly leaked emails contained evidence of illegal activities, and cover ups of such on the part of the liberal democratic party, then pray tell who did the nation of Russia help out more? Donald Trump, or the united states in general?
     
  7. ArmySoldier

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    I'm still trying to figure out how Hillary's corruption, lying to Congress, and lying to the American people all while having the Clinton Foundation to scam money...was caused by Russia.

    Oh wait, it wasn't.
     
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    They were responsible for the sniper fire she had to hide from with Sin Bad on that one trip...
     
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    Did Russia cause Hillary to lie to Congress? Did Russia cause Hillary to scam money from the Clinton Foundation? Did Russia force Hillary to lie to the family of dead Navy SEALs? Did Russia cause Hillary to create the Arab Spring, her and Obama's concoction that resulted in devastating civil wars?

    Because those are the things that made me not vote for Hillary. If Russia caused those things instead of Hillary, I guess we should blame them.
     
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    Would Hilary Clinton have won as a Democrat if she wasn't Hilary Clinton? :roflol:

    Her biggest mistake probably was not having enough people who had the goods on her assassinated.
     
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    That's totally cool. Cheating is only bad if it hurts the left politically. They would all do the same in those shoes.
     
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    As if you ever would have voted for Hillary.:roflol:

    You refuted NOTHING of what I posted.
     
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    I suggest that you should rephrase your question to read like this instead, "Who hurt themselves through stupid, inept, total lack of control over their own internal communications systems, the Republicans, or the Democrats?" Put another way, if a child does something stupid while riding a bicycle, falls off and breaks a leg, is it the fault of other children who watched this happen for talking about it?

    Besides, again (and forgive me for repeating this about thirty-eight times), but nobody has provided one shred of proof to this day that the damned Russians did ANYTHING!
     
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    Considering how many Russian-phobes there are in America today, without Russia, Donald Trump would nave won the popular vote by 25 million.
     
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    Trump won because of white high school educated males who work for a living and because free trade devastates them.
     
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    You refuted nothing from the election. She lost key states because those people hate her. The only one laughing isn't you. It's Trump. Russia didn't force those key states to vote for Trump. Hillary's illegalities and corruption did. Sorry bro
     
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    That sticks in my craw too. Not one shred of evidence that those red monsters did anything. And even when it comes to the hacking software, the people like McAfee says this is not the kind of software Russia would have used. A kid in a basement, yes. But MSM blacks him out. No contrary, credible voices allowed. This shows you it is anything but yellow journalism plus.
     
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    I think Clinton lost because she is so polarizing. Half of the Dems can't stand the sight of her. I don't know how she beat Sanders, to be honest. I was a lifelong Democrat until this past election. She comes across so smug and disingenuous. I remember when she started all the bullshit that hounded Obama for 8 years.

    I remember during that 2008 election primary she refused to step down, even when mathematically she could not win.
     
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    Wiki showed us the DNC rigged the election against Bernie. The left has a win at all cost philosophy that has left their party infested with Anthony Wieners, Podesta, Clinton's, etc.
     
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    Trump would have won without the supposed Russian help. Honestly, Hillary's deplorable speech is what caused Hillary to lose.
     
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    Hillary got complacent, watching polls. She should have played hard-ball, and run ad after ad, with the locker room banter episode. Had the tables been turned, I'll guarantee Trump would have, and it would have been on FOX News every day for weeks. One or two days by the mainstream media, and it was over. Hillary's fault.
     
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    When a bunch of Bill Clinton worshipers come out and say Trump is bad for women, most people see them for what they are. Partison hacks that will say/do anything they think will help. Bill Clinton can rape, flash his junk, have an affair in the oval office on public time, with a public intern, but Trump joking with a guy about grabbing chicks by the @#$%, that's what makes them mad. Total jokes with 0 credibity.
     
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    I guess women should find what Trump said endearing? Is that what you're saying? However, like I said, had the tables been turned, Trump would have played this card over and over. Also, FOX would have covered it for weeks. DEMs played too fair, and payed the price.
     
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    Bill Clinton likes women. Trump despises them.
     
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    He likes them so much he follows them around and flashes his junk. If they don't like him back, he rapes them. Another bill Clinton worshiper with 0 credibility.
     

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