y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

More recently, Kucinich & Gabbard went to the ME to meet with Assad. Their trip was arranged and paid for by a group believed to be sponsors of terrorism.

 

This does hit the one rationale for Kushner's likely treason to the USA - because of all of the deadly leaks his FATHER has spilled, Kushner was tryng to hide discussions from Trump with the Russian BEFORE Trump became the president!

What a predicament for this young man! Kushner is either a traitor to the USA or he is a traitor to his father!

 

Apparently, the Left has wholeheartedly approved, and is continuing having fond memories of Ted. As for acting on his own, don't we all? After all, the treason Ted Kennedy committed was in the best interests of Democrat party, right?

 

Well. Would be interesting to see how reasonable and lenient FBI is going to be, investigating this empty air (I mean, Kushner). After all, Hillary was found to have commited everything we have suspected her doing and yet, wasn't found guilty, right? I hope, this leniency toward Hillary will be remembered when judging Kushner.

 

Why would it? I didn't vote for him lol

 

Yes, wealth alone is not proof of intelligence. Nevertheless, Trump's great fortune was accumulated through the course of many very shrewd sometimes ruthless, often unorthodox business decisions. I read The Art of The Deal - carefully - as soon as Trump entered the race. It is an unflattering account assembled by a hostile editor who was not a fan of Trump. Trump is revealed as a very clever ruthless businessman with an entrenched deep hostility for the political establishment.

Trump engaged a platoon of America's most competitive ambitious elite politicians and beat them all, and the unrestrained opposition of the MSM, the Obama administration, and all of its federal police/intelligence agencies. He beat this combined force with ease - it was a tour de force.

Either Trump is very smart or this country has been led by virtual imbeciles. It should go without saying that I will always be receptive to any argument you may have that our establishment politicians are all stupid.

 

And that is very different from engaging in diplomacy communications for a president. But I have become rathe fond of Kucinich lately. IMO, Trump should appoint Kucinich to run an independent grand jury investigation of the intelligence communities involvement in domestic politics.

Gabbard, for a Democrat, is pretty good.

OTH, any politician, especially a Democrat, who is closely aligned with Assad has probably not thought it through.

 

Ted Kennedy and his ilk are why the American people now find Congress as repulsive as the MSM.

 

For your convenience, we did. The country doesn't need collusion; Trump is damaged goods, no matter what is or isn't found with collusion.

 

What is it about today's lopsided Right Wing that they prefer Russia own their own country?

Sure, America is guilty of many abuses over the years. So that means Russia is lily white innocent?

Both side committed atrocities during the cold war to gain an edge. If it hadn't been for Dubya and Cheney, we wouldn't be facing the criticism and crises we now face in the world. Beore that, we had a chance to leave it behind. Now it's twice as bad. Thanks Neocons, Thanks Republicans. (and their weak spine Democrat enablers)

 

Twits...read:


Homeland Security chief says back-channel talks with Russia would be 'normal...and acceptable'

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly came to the defense of Jared Kushner, saying it would be “both normal… and acceptable” to seek back-channel communications with Russia, but that if those communications used Russian equipment, that "would be considered to be … somewhat compromised.”

President Trump[/a], talked with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, prior to Trump's taking office, about establishing a back channel for communications about Syria and other policy matters, sources told ABC News.

Kelly told “This Week” co-anchor Martha Raddatz on Sunday that with countries such as Russia that are not allies of the U.S., any means of communication “is a good thing.”

All communications gathered through a back channel would be “shared across the government, so it’s not a bad thing to have multiple communication lines" with any country, Kelly said.

Raddatz pressed Kelly about whether it would be OK for these back-channel communications to be conducted using Russian diplomatic facilities, as, according to the Washington Post, Kushner sought.

Kelly continued to insist that any line of communication “to a country like Russia is a good thing," but he said "using their equipment, you know, that ... would be considered to be, you know, kind of somewhat compromised."


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/homeland-...ks-russia-193205873--abc-news-topstories.html

 

What they discussed according to the report, was that Kushner wanted to keep this line of communication to the Kremlin a secret from our own intelligence. What's common about that?

 

Yea, in the context of normal procedure. But when Raddatz asked Kelly about the contents of the Wapo article was what Kushner did normal, he couldn't answer. His answer was in general terms under a normal relationship. No security clearance, Kushner is a private citizen, asking for a back channel to the Kremlin hidden from our own intelligence, and behind the back of a sitting president, and compromising our national security as a private citizen is neither normal nor acceptable.

And you're welcome. I was glad to clear up that part you left out.

It is also not considered a back channel what Kushner tried to attempt. Joy Reid explained it best.http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/no-kushner-didn-t-seek-a-legitimate-back-channel-955217475931

 

And then Kushner lied about his contact with the Russians.

Why the need for so many in Trump 's circle to lie about contacts with Russians.


At what point does the bullshit detector go off with these people?

 

Yea, why did he lie about the contact from the beginning? Then, when caught owned up to it? This smells like a giant piece of rotten meat to me?

And, on top of that, what Kushner tried to do, isn't even considered a back channel method. http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/no-kushner-didn-t-seek-a-legitimate-back-channel-955217475931

 

With all the felonious leaking by our intelligence, small wonder.

But, backdoor channels have been going on as long as there's been a U.S. presidency.

"Bombshell:Obama's Secret Backdoor Deal Giving Iran Nukes: Everything You need to Know":

leaked documents reveal that Iran's breakout time may be much shorter than the Obama administration led us to believe. The infamous Iran nuclear deal sits at the foundation of President Obama's foreign policy. An guess what? It's much, much worse than we thought."

And oddly enough, this wasn't followed by "progressive" brick ******** over Presidential back doors.

From the following Spectator article on Iran and illegal spying:

At some point, the administration weaponized the NSA’s legitimate monitoring of communications of foreign officials to stay one step ahead of domestic political opponents,” says a pro-Israel political operative who was deeply involved in the day-to-day fight over the Iran Deal. “The NSA’s collections of foreigners became a means of gathering real-time intelligence on Americans engaged in perfectly legitimate political activism—activism, due to the nature of the issue, that naturally invo“lved conversations with foreigners

This is what systematic abuse of foreign-intelligence collection for domestic political purposes looks like: Intelligence collected on Americans, lawmakers, and figures in the pro-Israel community was fed back to the Obama White House as part of its political operations

From the following Bloomberg article:

"President Barack Obama's administration has been working behind the scenes for months to forge a new working relationship with Russia, despite the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin has shown little interest in repairing relations with Washington or halting his aggression in neighboring Ukraine."

There is still only one crime clearly exposed, the massive scandal of illegal spying by the Obama Administration.

The first two paragraphs of the New York Post article:
New revelations have surfaced that the Obama administration abused intelligence during the election by launching a massive domestic-spy campaign that included snooping on Trump officials.

The irony is mind-boggling: Targeting political opposition is long a technique of police states like Russia, which Team Obama has loudly condemned for allegedly using its own intelligence agencies to hack into our election.

They are fooling no one.

 

What he suggested they do was circumvent the IC eyes and ears. While the Obama Admin was still in power and after Russia helped Trump win. That's akin to treason with a foreign adversary.

 

Once again, twits, read:


Homeland Security chief says back-channel talks with Russia would be 'normal...and acceptable'

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly came to the defense of Jared Kushner, saying it would be “both normal… and acceptable” to seek back-channel communications with Russia, but that if those communications used Russian equipment, that "would be considered to be … somewhat compromised.”

President Trump[/a], talked with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, prior to Trump's taking office, about establishing a back channel for communications about Syria and other policy matters, sources told ABC News.

Kelly told “This Week” co-anchor Martha Raddatz on Sunday that with countries such as Russia that are not allies of the U.S., any means of communication “is a good thing.”

All communications gathered through a back channel would be “shared across the government, so it’s not a bad thing to have multiple communication lines" with any country, Kelly said.

Raddatz pressed Kelly about whether it would be OK for these back-channel communications to be conducted using Russian diplomatic facilities, as, according to the Washington Post, Kushner sought.

Kelly continued to insist that any line of communication “to a country like Russia is a good thing," but he said "using their equipment, you know, that ... would be considered to be, you know, kind of somewhat compromised."


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/homeland-...ks-russia-193205873--abc-news-topstories.html

 

But you don't call Ted Kennedy a traitor or judas, and don not acknowledge his crime against America.

 

KINDA WEIRD HOW WE’VE LEARNED THAT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ADMITTED TO THE FISA COURT THAT IT WAS SPYING ILLEGALLY, yet the media response has been extremely subdued.

 

And if I do you'll agree Kushner is? Why are we playing games, I could tell you Kennedy should have been shot and you'll still defend Kushner lol

 

So why'd Jared exclude it from his background paperwork?

 

Not quite, no. If Kushner is found to be guilty of breaking one law or another, I'll be the first to throw him under the bus. Trust me.

You?

 

Did as he was advised to do, would be my guess...just like Sessions, neither of whom have been accused of any wrongdoing, outside of the foamy-mouthed, TDS afflicted alt. left and Fake News media.

 

Bullcrap. Madeup nonsense. The Head of Homeland Security already debunked that Fake News, frothy-mouth left lie.

From the link I provided, post #369:

"All communications gathered through a back channel would be “shared across the government, so it’s not a bad thing to have multiple communication lines" with any country, Kelly said."

Still can't read/comprehend anything with a named source?