y Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

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  1. bwk

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    Your problem is you are trying to mix up two different arguments. "All communications gathered through a back channel would be “shared across the government, so it’s not a bad thing to have multiple communication lines" with any country, Kelly said." What kelly is saying and what the report is saying about Kushner are two different things. We all understand the need for the Right to confuse the message, but at the end of the day, that trick won't work. The Right isn't that smart.Kelly isn't debunking anything. He is simply quoting a policy procedure that there is nothing wrong with a shared government back channel. Since this proposal by Kushner to the Russians to circumvent our intelligence was proposed, that does not constitute a back channel. That isn't what a back channel is. When you are trying to avoid our government from finding out there is a secret back channel to the Kremlin, an adversary to the country, that is treasonous in nature, violates the espionage Act,that is a serious problem. Learn what a back channel is; http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/no-kushner-didn-t-seek-a-legitimate-back-channel-955217475931
     
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    :roflol:Once again, you do not understand your own post. You need to understand what a "back channel" actually is. http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/no-kushner-didn-t-seek-a-legitimate-back-channel-955217475931
     
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    Sessions lied about his contacts with Russia and got caught. That's not wrongdoing? :roflol:
     
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    That is an excuse in the absence of a rebuttal.

    This isn't a back door channel; http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/no-kushner-didn-t-seek-a-legitimate-back-channel-955217475931

    Your weaknesses are too obvious. Changing the topic to Obama doesn't change the story with Kushner one bit. When are you folks going to learn this? Going to Obama or Clinton isn't going to magically fix what the current corrupt administration is doing.
     
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    Yes as soon as Kennedy is found guilty....
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Sessions claimed he was told to leave off meetings as a senator. What office did Kushner hold?
     
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    1. pffft....you don't even read what you've quoted??
    2. Kushner was not working for the government at the time. What business is it for him to conduct conversation with a foreign official on behalf of the US??

    Twit.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Because it was likely on the behalf of him and his FIL, not the US
     
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    Reduced to just making up bullshit, as usual, we see.

    The Head of Homeland security already blew this Fake News Lie out of the water...so you just start making up nonsense.

    It'd be pathetic, if it weren't so funny....
     
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    Except the purpose of Kushner's approach to the Russians seems like it was specifically designed to ensure that information would NOT be shared across government. It seems designed to ensure that the only people who knew about the content of the communications would be Trump, Kushner, Flynn and the Kremlin.
     
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    So again, why did he leave it off his security clearance forms?
     
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    We are calling out your hypocrisy. Every President has had back-door channels, McMasters is right, yet a nother big nothing by the dead enders who still refuse to accept the outcome of our free and fair elections.

    Hillary Said Not Accepting Election Results Was ‘Direct Threat To Democracy’

    So, according to Hillary, you Hillary dead-enders are actually a direct threat to our democracy now since you’re trying to overthrow the election of Trump.

    Very sad! Perhaps it is the dead-enders that are "deplorable" and "irredeemable"?
     
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    It depends what you mean by "back door channels".

    I'm not sure that any president has asked to walk into the Russian embassy and use Russian diplomatic communications equipment in order to send messages to the Kremlin that no-one else in his administration could monitor ...
     
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    Very clever, my friend :)
     
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    Well, and because that makes so little sense, I mean come on, the Russians are never going to agree to that, and certainly Flynn knew that, and he was supposedly at this meeting. I think this was a fake, "diagnostic" leak, to confirm that the folks they have identified as the leakers, are. And it appears the leakers took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
     
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    A bit out of a spy movie, but I hope you're right. That'd explain quite a few things.
     
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    We will see. But that is the current report ...
    It is one thing to have "back channels" - whatever that means - that are not part of the normal diplomatic channels. It is something entirely different to have lines of communication that are completely shielded from any other agency (FBI, CIA, NSA etc.).
     
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    Er, that doesn't make sense, as the information came from intelligence intercepts, not the White House.

    The formulation used to describe the sources -- "U.S, officials briefed on intelligence reports" -- often means "members of Congress."
     
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    Well somehow Trump claimed Flynn was a great guy and fired him anyway.
     
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    Fake News only damages the residue of MSM/political class credibility that has not already been squandered.

    "But on Wednesday night, Morell appeared at an intelligence community forum to “cast doubt” on “allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.” “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.” THE INTERCEPT, Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion, Glenn Greenwald, March 16 2017.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/03/16...-to-expect-evidence-of-trumprussia-collusion/

    Virtually no one trusts the MSM now. Every Fake News attack on Trump strengthens Trump and weakens his enemies.
     
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    "Anonymous" sources have claimed Trump is, or will, consider bringing Flynn back to the WH once he's been cleared. I'm not sure how good Kushner is at his job, I'm really indifferent to his staying or going. I think Trump just wanted to bring in people he trusted to work on his agenda, and not leak every detail to MSM.
     
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    When you have multiple unnamed sources confirming the same story versus Trump denying it the issue of credibility is really only applicable to what Trump says. Do we really need to repost the thousands of lies Trump has said or can you read factcheck.org on your own.

    Even his most recent about how all Americans are going to have great affordable healthcare insurance under the Trump plan should be enough to sink his credibility for all but his most blind worshippers .
     
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    Source please. ;-)
     
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    Well if Trump is waiting for Flynn to be cleared he has a very long wait. And even if he does come back he will bever get any security clearance. Somehow I doubt even Trump is dumb enough to bring that loser back to the White House after Flynn brought such discredit on the ranks of the military brass.
     
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    How many people out there who do not like Trump, and are willing to lie to hurt him?

    Think about it for a minute.
     

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