Yacht clubs, golf courses, gated communities: Florida’s pop-up vaccine clinics raise ethical concern

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  1. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    You going to explain how my claim of Democrat cities who allowed hundreds of thousands to gather in the street for 8 months contributed to their death count, or are you saying you agree?
     
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    So you would prefer to have senior facilities with 10,000 or more residence all go to the Daytona speedway or CVS backing up lines even more instead of bringing the vaccination site to the larger senior facilities.
    Thats pretty common thinking among the left.
     
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    I don't give a crap where they go. So long as people in the same priority group have the same opportunity to get them.

    BTW, it wasn't the Daytona Speedway. According to the article, it was the Daytona Stadium.
     
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    So you prefer less access than more access? Why do you want old people to die?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pfizer delivered 2.9 million doses to be distributed to the country in December. Florida received 179,400 doses. 97,000 went right to hospitals. How do you propose the other 82,000 should have been distributed? People were already complaining of lines at the major centers. They obviously couldn't have distributed MORE than they were allocated. Those facilities were clearly operating at capacity. Is your solution really to have more people waiting in the same lines? You don't think rich people would have taken up spaces in those lines preventing access to non rich people?
     
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    BINGO

    but DeSantis is now being targeted by the Democrat party and thus, the Democrat media. Truth doesn't matter. Get the lies out early and often and Democrat voters will believe it
     
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    Please don't tell me you think people who live in gated communities can't possibly find a Publix or CVS pharmacy to get their shot, like everybody else. They need to wait in line like everybody else.
     
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    I think that's not entirely unfair, in a way, since there also will be many of his donors who will be refusing vaccinations. It all works out in a way.

    Overall, I wouldn't be surprised if his donor base ends up having a pretty much equal rate to the rest of the population (in that age group).
     
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    Why? Seniors are the most likely to die from Covid. It makes sense to me to distribute the vaccines to senior centers so that they don't have to go into the public and risk getting covid. It would be nice if we could do that for every senior but that's simply not possible. But it should be done when ever its efficiently possible.
     
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    Why is it the leftist media is running stories about how DeSantis is playing favors with rich donors while deciding who gets vaccinated yet they haven't provided and Floridians interviews making the same claims?

    If that were the case, you don't think local mayors and local government would be making those accusations to protect their cities. Thats one thing we have all learned to count on with leftist media hype stories.
    They always seem to make these claims without a source, then get egg on their faces just like the list I provided.
    Most people have learned to give these claims very little credibility based on common sense but there are still those select few that will broadcast any story they can find for a political hit no matter how many times they
    later find out they were wrong. Some people can learn, and some people just don't have that ability.
     
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    So you thought it would make more sense to have 10s of thousands of seniors leave these 22 facilities and expose themselves to the general public instead of having them stay put and getting this done where they live because you think its unfair to those who don't live in a senior care facility?

    That makes the same amount of sense as Cuomo mandating senior facilities taking infected patients. Thanks God DeSantis is smarter than the average leftist media hounds. Most likely why his numbers rank his state 39th in Covid deaths while at the same time, 3rd in population, with one of the highest populations of seniors.

    Yet those numbers don't count when the left gets involved. lol
     
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    Do you think it's better to have people wait in a single line, rather than having two lines that serve more people? Do you just like it when people wait in lines?

    You do realize that fewer poor people would be served if you make some other group wait in the same line....
     
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    I'm a Floridian. And the immoral action is commented all over.

    What is your point? Is it that anything is moral until newspapers complain about it?

    Well... here you go. A few samples
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article249666463.html
    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...lout-shorts-hard-hit-working-poor/6923290002/
    https://localnews8.com/news/2021/03...9-vaccination-clinics-in-upscale-communities/
     
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    Senior centers.... sure. Gated Communities, no! There are many senior centers in Florida.
     
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    I don't think you understand gated communities. There are Publix and CVS where they live!

    Your defense of this immoral behavior being so weak and laughable says a lot about your level of loyalty to your party. But not too well of your loyalty to fellow human beings.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many senior centers had pop up vaccination centers. They were at senior centers, churches, community centers, libraries, etc. Why do you think it's important to limit the number of pop up centers that pop up? Is it because you want fewer people to get the vaccine?
     
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    Why not gated communities?
     
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    I agree with you. I have no problem with these vaccination centers as long as they allow equal access to all. If it is only for senior then all seniors should be allowed to go to them so the gated community and clubs should open their doors to the public.

    The only remaining question is are they making it easier for some seniors to get vaccinated and not others. It should be easy to map out the available centers and the area and population they serve. It would be unfair if they place many options for one areas with short lineups and easy access for certain seniors and then turn around and place one or two in dense population centers and the access and line ups are more difficult and long.
     
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    Are you even aware how vaccination works? There is no lack of places to give vaccines. Nor has there ever been. What there has been is shortage of vaccines.... to this day! I asked the pharmacists at my local Publix why I never see lines of people getting a shot, and he told me they were getting about 80 shots a week. So they open about 20 appointments every other day. They run out of vaccines before noon on the days they give shots (Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays) It was less than that in December and January when DeSantis donors were getting theirs.

    Why does everybody else: seniors, first responders, teachers, medical workers... have to spend day after day trying to find an opening for an appointment at Publix, Walgreens, CVS, WinnDixie, hospitals, clinics,.... While all that Desantis donors need to do is hop on their golf carts and drive up to the clubhouse?

    There is no way you can justify that. It's shots for donations. It's sick to use a pandemic and the lives of people to raise campaign money.
     
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    Senior centers, churches, community centers, .... they all required appointments. People had to wait days or.. weeks to find an open spot.

    Not if you're a Desantis donor. All you had to do was drive up to the Yacht Club where you're a member.
     
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    Obviously because there are not enough vaccines. Let them wait in line, like the rest of us. Give those vaccines to Publix and let's see if these Desantis donors are up at 7:00 in the morning clicking desperately to try to find an appointment before they run out at 7:01
     
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    What makes a senior in a gated community different from a senior in a senior center? You don't mind one, but you mind the other...what's the diff?
     
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    Try reading the post you responded to again.
     
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    Not sure the OP put a lot of thought in this one.
     
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    I read it. My question stands.
     

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