Your Rocket.

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  1. dudeman

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    all of the women would be in pornography or exhibitionism.
    Chloe Vevrier, Milena Velba, Alexis Texas, Merilyn Sakova, Eden Mor, and Angie Harmon.

    Pick six random dudes and accidentally send them to Venus.
     
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    Or Uranus.

    :omg:
     
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    Yes, I suppose that is true.

    The early days would be most vulnerable.

    Let us say they got to a population of a few hundred.

    I suppose that would not take long, at all.

    At that early point, a serious disease or virus could feasibly wipe out a few hundred, and thus, the chances of a successfull rebirth of the human race.

    And even if three survived it...they may all be of the same sex.
     
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    Your Anus, Jack
     
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    That is why I would have a biologist, and a surgeon.
    The best on the planet. With as much gear as they could bring... and why I have miners, a blacksmith, electrical and a structural engineer... to make more from what they find.

    I actually gave this a lot of thought. I like your threads.

    I would also cheat and send pregnant women. First trimester.
     
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    Thanks v much.:)

    And good lateral thinking, however, would not pregnant women be a greater risk?
     
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    The fetuses would... which is why I would think late first trimester... for the transport... I mean they can fly on airplanes etc...

    Unless you mean on the planet surface... that threat will never change. I would be more worried about the loss of productivity by the caretakers... in this scenario, however, you WOULD have the village raising the child. The women would have to take turns being Octomom. One of the two reasons I would have two warriors on the new planet. One to guard the children. It is also another way to cheat, as they have their own skills and divinations in the service. The other reason I want two warriors, is to prevent the single trained killer from claiming they are emperor.
     
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    If I had to help to repopulate another planet so we all had a place to live and that meant leaving behind my family, then yes, I believe I could.

    You need the police officer to keep the peace and restore law and order, and a doctor to attend to medical needs.
    Aside from those, you need young people, of childbearing age. Healthy people, no drunks or smokers as this might make it harder for babies to be concieved. You have the doctor on hand to deliver them.

    If you had, say, 10 women and two men, one pregnancy each in five years would mean a population boost of 50. It would also mean a lot of babysitting, so you couldn't bring too many children into the mix until there are enough adults to care for them.

    If the women are in their twenties, another five children each a decade later means a population boost of 100. By this time, the first 'batch' of babies are 10 years old and will be ready to bear children shortly.

    The problem with this is though, that you cannot expect someone to procreate in order to populate the planet if they don't want to. You could stall the population because they refuse to have sex.

    How would we get around that? I don't know...
     
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    What would they eat? You want 13 people to just eat and hope?
    What would protect them from the elements? You hoping for caves?
    What would protect them from indigenous wildlife? What if there are big nasties?

    What is to prevent the cop from becoming the law?
    1 child every 5 years? You are worried about babysitting? One teacher is responsible for 30 kids, but you think the responsibility of the survival of the human race requires more one on one interaction?

    There is nothing about your scenario which makes any sense.
     
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    Hi - what I mean is that with a small crew of 13, I am really not sure if it would be a good idea to include the already pregnant. There would be plenty of time for pro creation, once they had arrived, and taken time to get used to their new planet, all of which would be challenging enough, without having extra responsibilites thrust on them, before they were ready.

    There would be no need for a warrior to guard anyone , since there would be nothing there to guard them from.

    Besides, even if some low level patrols are needed, this could just as well be done, by a rota system, by two people at a time.

    Why take any trained killers? Last thing I would want would be one, let alone two. There would be no one else there except for the other eleven crew members. Why take along two men who could only logically kill you and the others? Besides, if the two formed an alliance, then you'd really regret it!

    :-D
     
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    It's on the assumption that those going would want to, and understand that this part was integral to the deal.
     
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    Whose peace?

    Whose law?

    Whose order?
     
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    That was sort of nailed in the OP though, when it stated that supplies to grow their own food etc, had already been sent up.
     
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    Believe it or not, farming takes education.

    Preparing and storing food.

    Repairing equipment.

    You can't just stuff 13 random people used to going to the disco and eating at McDonalds on a planet to fend for themselves. WTF are they going to do without google?

    With regards to pregnant women, 3 months deep gives them plenty of time to work on their civilization. If they are not ready to sustain in another 3 months, they aren't going to make it.
     
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    Nah- population grows exponentially- Jefferson said it would take 100 generations to populate the land up to the Mississip after he bought it from France. Took 2-3 generations.
     
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    In the ideal situation you have presented, it would only take time to populate a new planet. A thousand years would be sufficient to have a world full of people.
     
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    Here is an interesting twist.

    Do you think it would matter what the psychological state of the original 13 was?

    For example, if each one had a recognised mental health problem, be that what it may, how would that impact on the long term population, over a millenia?
     
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    I think by 12 weeks, you would only merely be starting to get accustomed to the new planet, and the psychological impact that EVERYTHING and EVERYONE else on your own planet was dead.

    Two years is more reasonable.
     
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    Nothing gets you past trauma and death like responsibility and life. I say BECAUSE of the psychological impact of a lost world new life is necessary ASAP to help heal.
     
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    Wow. I can't predict what MY kids are gonna do or be... 1000 years out is kinda tough.
     
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    My point is that if all the possible parents (the crew), had a acute mental health problem, and they have been known to v much carry into the child, would it be a society in which it was very very common, much more so that today's?
     
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    But think of the magnitude of it.

    Everything and everyone.

    I think that would be a lot harder for people to get their head around, than you optimistically estimate!

    :)
     
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    I think it is incredibly hard to get your head around, and running after wee ones will afford little time for it. Most will move past without wallowing in it for too long.

    As to a crew full of nutters... that completely changes everything and I do not have high hopes for their survival.

    However if you mean what I will label as "stupid" mental disorders... like OCD... well... you don't hear about people in India being eaten by tigers because they have to touch every tree branch they pass. Many disorders seem born of narcissism in a society which affords them. Survival has a way of moving past "stupid" mental disorders.
     
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    OCD
    Borderline Personality Disorder
    Manic Depression

    That sort of thing..
     
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    BPD is not stupid... just dangerous. No chance I would ALLOW someone for whom that had manifested on a planet with a dozen people responsible for the survival of the human race.

    Manic Depression or Bi-Polar Disorder is also a powder keg.

    You bring up a great point I hadn't thought of... family history.
     

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