Zimmerman Trial ~ (Monday July 1st)

weird the state seems like it is shooting itself in the foot once again with this guy, this rules out any chance of martins parents cedibility that they recognize martins voice as the one screaming

 

The defense can't be happy that these weren't Zimmys' death screams ....

 

Finally! ...to the evidence in the case.

 

Just more of the Defense going through the motions of pretending to have a case. The "Expert" just testified that he couldn't determine anything.

WTF Prosecution ?

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Apparently not.

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Except that is not the testimony

 

and the state just took a shotgun and let both barrels loose on it's left foot by eliminating the misconception that a high pitched scream would be the younger of the 2 individuals involved

 

600-700Hz regardless of age.

 

Hmmm, pitch can raise to 600 700 hz under extreme emotional state independent of age.

Not possible to determine age on that recording.

 

Like what do you mean ... he' testifying to cycles (Hz, pitch, resonance) ... and all the (distortions) ... that makes it inconclusive to tell wether it's an 18 year old boy or 30 year old man ....

 

No, 600-700Hz regardless of age.

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The state needs to save the taxpayers some money and just fold up shop here.

 

In other words, another fail for the prosecution.

 

I believe all the State is hoping for, by calling this witness, is to essentially say to the Defense, that it can not be determined that it was Zimmerman screaming.


Obviously, negates any speculation from both sides, as to who it was.


Calling this witness is simply procedural (IMO).

 

So what can the Dr. conclude ... that Zimmy shot Martin to death because his life was in imminent threat of great bodily harm ?

 

no idea why the state would call this guy


ahhhh here we go familiar vs unfamiliar identification, setting stage for martins parents testimony

 

No, he can conclude that you can't tell who it was. The eyewitness who was there on scene and said it was most likely Zimmerman will carry the most weight with the jury.

 

How about you take the time to look again at what you say with your willy-nilly posts ? You asserted that these were not Z's screams based on testimony. That is not the testimony. The testimony is that no determination can be made. Going to either Z or M.

Can you at least try to go one day where you make posts based on a perceived ability that you are contributing to the thread or topic ? And not just making factually erroneous statements ?

 

Oh I was just wondering how this testimony proves Zimmy was yelling in death screams just before he shot Martin to death.

Yes, heres' West on cross ... certainly he can prove it .... LOL

 

The state called him to try and prove it was TM, did they not?

 

The only thing relevant is that Martin was completely innocent of any crime at the time of the incident. Zimmerman had no legal justification for stalking him.

The recorded phone call proves that Martin ran away once he realized he was being followed, and Zimmerman continued to pursue him. Zimmerman was aware that Martin had a reasonable expectation of fear created by the continued pursuit. Martin’s actions were consistent with a person who reasonably believed they were in danger. Zimmerman ended the phone call, and we have no proof in Zimmerman’s defense that he did not continue to pursue Martin. However, Jeantel’s testimony indicates that Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him.

Additionally, as I have outlined in a previous post, Zimmerman did not make any attempt to evade Martin. In fact, by his own account, and witness testimony, he did not call for help until the fight had significantly escalated and turned in Martin’s favor. While Martin’s attempt to flee Zimmerman is absolutely clear, there is no indication that Zimmerman attempted to flee Martin.

 

Tracy Martin initially testified that was not his son screaming, then later recanted and said it was...the cross if the father is called up will be interesting

 

Remember that next time someone is walking in front of you and they decide to turn around and assault you. You have no case, deal with it.

 

You have to wonder why the state would call 'em to the stand ... LOL.

 

To show the jury no one can tell from the recording who is screaming. But, if the State calls Mary Cutcher next, it will be the states 3rd ear witness who will say they were there at the time and they heard a boy screaming.

 

"LOL" <<<<< you are laughing at all of your posts again.

This is a Prosecution witness. Are you alleging that he is a Defense witness ?

Please try, for just one day, to not troll these threads with willy-nilly posts.

 

Just answer the question ... why is the state calling the Dr. to the stand ? ... your interest should be piqued as we're now in defense cross ... which appears to be questioning the Dr's prowess & expertise in terms of his credibility ..

 

He's testifying that its easier to reliably identify a FAMILIAR voice, by ear than by using a short clip of an unfamiliar voice with technology.