The ark and a world wide flood.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    To start off I believe the biblical account of the world wide flood is a true, scientific, and accurate. Now excuse me while I put on my flak jacket.
     
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    and of course you have no evidence.
     
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    I hope it is made from asbestos.

    There is one problem with flood geology that Young Earth Creationists will never resolve. That is the presence of fossilized charcoal in layers presumably deposited during the flood. If these layers were deposited while Earth was covered in water, how could there be burnt wood?

    http://www.rationalskepticism.org/creationism/flood-geology-goes-up-in-flames-t51371.html
     
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    This is the SCIENCE forum

    The conspiracy/whacky ideas forum is that way!!

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    I'm starting to think that you don't even know how to spell science let alone understand what science is.

    Science is not, "It's in the Bible so it must be true."
     
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    Oh! I cannot resist!

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    So if there WAS a Noah and he DID take on board "two of every animal" - that brings some interesting problems with it

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    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    I think this answers in at least part.

    https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/extinction/dearth-dinosaurs-late-triassic-tropics/

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    I'm not going to use the Bible as evidence only as the guidelines it gives such as dimensions and what was on the ark.
     
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    A lot of animals hibernate during stormy weather and recycle their "business". Plus if consider that Noah most likely took babies or juveniles it probably cut down on their "fertilizer" as well.
     
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    LOFL
    Basic problem
    Water
    There ain't near enough.
    If both poles and Greenland melted it would only raise Sea level app 70 meters, 230'.
    Jerusalem, ie, is, and always has been on a Plateau in recorded history, not on the coast:
    Altitude 2500'. (and Everest was still 29k+ feet)
    Ooops.
    Another JOKE of a post.
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    Since God can do anything, it makes more sense for God to sustain them without food for that short period of time. No food needed, no cleanup needed. Makes perfect sense.
     
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    Your assuming that the mountains were as high as they are now. There's enough water right now in the oceans to cover everything with a mile deep of water if everything was flatten out.

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    Actually the flood lasted for a year.
     
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    You know I LIKE embarrassing people when it comes to pseudoscience. One way to do that is follow the so called "research" many of these weird and wonderful websites dredge up - just to see if there are any diamonds

    So I clicked on the link about Greenmount beach Australia - even though it said this



    Which leaves you wondering if they really really mean to imply that strata formation was caused by prehistoric dredging

    But I followed it's "link" and found nothing - no page

    So I googled the paragraphs - and what floated to the top like a fatty turd? Creationists websites

    Hmmmmm - a link to another creationist blog is NOT "scientific evidence" your blog site in claiming to have "scientific evidence" is LYING THROUGH IT'S TEETH
     
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    Actually there is not - not unless all the continents went under water at once. So, how do you explain Australia and Asia and China and Japan and South America to name but a few countries with unique fauna and flora. How did all of that get on the "ark"?? No Aussie animals hibernate so you would definitely be knee deep in Roo Poo before landing. And having collected all of those animals - how did they get home again?
     
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    This is just as bad as your argument against evolution. The rate of geological change needed to go from a flat Earth to one covered in mountains and valleys during the single year of the flood are simply catastrophic, and yet you also claim that Mount Everest could not have been a sea bed millions of years ago.
     
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    God must have removed the evidence for the world wide flooding when he was adding all the fake fossil evidence to the geological record.
     
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    There is plenty of evidence.... Regardless if the flood is biblical in nature that is irreverent - there was a flood indeed..

    The flood isn't "myth" it is fact....
     
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    I'm not going to even argue the biblical story of the arc but I will tell you this much there was a flood (many)...

    The real question is what caused it (them)...

    My theory which many geologists agree with is the melting of the ice caps rapidly, perhaps a tsunami or two to make it worse...

    What most people don't understand is that we STILL to this day are coming off an ice age.... Yeah most of the caps have melted but 4,000-5,000 years ago it would have been worse..... Imagine half mile glaciers just melting and falling apart?

    I mean many older cities are already under water ...
     
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    The Euphrates River basin is pretty flat. The epic myth is about a 4 day river flood in 2900 BC.
     
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    Cause? Spring snowmelt from the Zagros mountains combined with heavy rains. It happened often enough to build up the delta south of Basra.
     
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    I think melt water certainly played a role, but with melt water you will also get different weather and climate....... I think the caps were slowly moving back, there was more water, hence cities got flooded....

    You have to remember back then the ice caps were 150X the size they are today..... We are coming off an ice age, and a new ice age will begin in maybe 2,500 years...

    It's just a cycle....

    Also, I think "Atlantis" was a city off the shore of North or South America, perhaps the Dominican Republic or Cuba, but the sea rised and ate the Island's up...
     
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    The flood was only 135 miles wide and 350 miles long.. dumping into the Persian Gulf.
     
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    sense God can do anything, it would be stupid to think he would pull a Andrea Yates and drown everyone.... why not just twitch his nose and make them all be gone if he did not like his playthings he created anymore

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    This is the Science section, not the Humor section.

    :)
     
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