Israel a historical Aggressor, not only re Iran?

Yeah right...Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers living throughout the Islamic world are all rapidly fleeing today because of chronic violent oppression, systematic persecution, and zero religious liberties at the hands of their Islamic totalitarian masters that several international conferences have been held recently to express concern that if something doesn't change drastically in the near future that the Islamic world will be totally devoid of all Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers in only a few short years.

Of course, since you are lame taqiyya spewer yourself, you also deny that Lebanon is currently undergoing the final stages of demographic conquest. Indeed, it looks today a lot like Europe will look in the not too distant future.

 

More straw man obsession, while still not understanding what a straw man argument is.

 

Ultimately, of course, because of your oil crusades and your support of the nazi occupation of Palestine. You work for AIPAC, I take it. How do they pay?

 

Not enough because even gullible American members of the Guilt Complex can see through the scam if they manage to pull their heads out from the sand.

 

There is no such thing as Christian – Muslim alliances. Muslims only make truces with non-Muslim unbelievers known as a hudna modeled off of Muhammad’s 10 year Treaty of Hudaybiyyah made with his own tribe in which he betrayed and broke just two years later once he had gained the upper hand. Indeed, like you keep demonstrating, you are incredibly ignorant of Islam, which explains why it so easy for them to exploit your ignorance's to the hilt.

The economic situation in Lebanon is abysmal, just like it is in all other countries afflicted with Islam. And I hate to rain on your naïve and gullible parade again, but Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers living in Islamic totalitarian hellholes are fleeing in mass, not only because of economic hardship, but also because of violent oppression, systematic persecution, and zero religious liberties.

Indeed, there have been numerous international conferences held in recent years to express concerned over the alarming rate at which Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers are being ethnically cleansed from the Islamic world. In fact, in only a few years, unless something drastic changes near term, North Africa and the Middle East will become totally devoid of Christians, when North Africa and the Middle East were formerly Christendom before they were brutally conquered via Islamic conquest. It will be another glaring example of Islamic cultural genocide.

Islamic extremism? I hate to rain on your gullible parade again, but the existence of extremist Islam, radical Islam, peaceful Islam, and moderate Islam, exactly like the existence of extremist Muslims, radical Muslims, Islamist Muslims, and moderate Muslims are all false PC multicultural myths used to explain away the obvious realities that Islamic civilization is not equal, morally equivalent, or the same as Western civilization or any other civilizations, cultures, or societies per the dictates of PC multiculturalism. Indeed, Islamic civilization has an imperative to subjugate and dominate all other civilizations, cultures, and societies.

As a matter of fact, per the sixth and most important pillar of MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM, it is an obligatory duty in Islam for EVERY MUSLIM ON EARTH to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. No exceptions.

Hence, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS ON EARTH are jihadists. A tiny minority of them are violent jihadists, while the vast overwhelming majority of them are covert non-violent jihadists, and the few that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM must be executed.

Not really, as the taqiyya he spews is completely irrelevant, even if it were true and it is not.

 

I know people currently constrained in straight jackets that can compose posts far less delusional and unhinged than yours.

 

Yet I displayed how you are wrong; there is no shame in conceding.

You definitely are a troll, and I've made quite the mistake in indulging you. Much thanks for the laughs, though.

 

Complete, flawless, whole and well described, I would not change a word.

 

I believe we have just concluded who the 'historical aggressor' is based off of this topic.

 

We'll be seeing it , verbatim, somewhere else then.

 

based off??????????????????????????????

What are you trying to say???????????????? incomprehensible!!!!!!!!!

You are a Christian from Bethlehem... Christians are not the majority in this town anymore...

Margot pretends to be Christian but her involvement in this discussion is outrageously pro Arab.

 

Based off the fact that nobody was able to refute any of klipklap's claims.

Also, I didn't realize religious affiliation was important while discussing politics on an online forum.

 

So? You make it seem that pro-Arabism is somehow exclusive to Muslims when history has shown that that is evidently not the case.

 

You displayed how incredibly ignorant of Islam and incredibly gullible you are at the same time, indicating why it is so easy for Muslim to exploit your ignorance's to the hilt, especially since you have so many.

Sorry, but I don't reside in the same myopic cocoon you live in and that you call a world.

 

Only if you ignore the previous 1300 years of jihad conquest and the harsh, violent, and degrading dhimmitude, the constant slave raids into Europe and Africa, the countless genocides, the cultural genocides, the 270 million people killed in jihad conquests, the barbaric rapes, murder, torture, pillage, enslavement, and mayhem, etc., etc., etc. Or otherwise, as in your case, you are just ignorant.

 

Let me fortify the above retort OY with the following clip...

The Grand Jihad
http://youtu.be/7dRr854zxbA

And another one...

A War of Words leads to nowhere Iran approach

http://youtu.be/veID9etdhC0

 

Being Arab has nothing whatsoever to do with the permanent and perpetual jihad being waged against Israel by the Islamic world. In fact, part of Islamic taqiyya that is spewed is dedicated to make it seem like it is an Arab vs. Israeli conflict in order to take the focus off of Islam and to also claim that Israelis are racist. Nevertheless, it's not a conflict, instead it is an Islamic jihad of conquest and just one of many that altogether collective comprise the covert greater global jihad being waged against not only Jewish unbelievers, but also all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world.

With respect to history, you have proven that other than taqiyya you don't know any. You certainly don't know anything about the almost 1400 year history of jihad conquest, harsh, violent, and degrading dhimmitude, the constant slave raids into Europe and Africa, the countless genocides, the cultural genocides, the 270 million people killed in jihad conquests, the barbaric rapes, murder, torture, pillage, enslavement, and mayhem, etc., etc., etc. Not only that but you also don't know anything about the Islamic world, plus you are incredibly ignorant of Islam on top of it. In fact, Muslim taqiyya artist are picking your pockets and exploiting your ignorance's to the hilt and laughing all the way to the bank.

 

Are you unhinged? Riff Raff's taqiyya has been refuted so many times it makes my head spin, but one can only have so much fun. In any event, the taqiyya he spews is irrelevant and meant only to dupe gullible useful idiots. Hence, even if it were true, and it is not, it doesn't matter and in fact is a complete and utter waste of time.

Indeed, what is happening in Israel is not a land squabble; it's a perpetual jihad of conquest, and it is not being waged because the Jews allegedly stole land, which is utterly ridiculous, but instead because they are Jewish unbelievers. Indeed, the sixth and most important pillar of Islam makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for every Muslim on earth to fight jihad in the cause of Allah against non-Muslim unbelievers to make Islam supreme. As a matter of fact, it is the fundamental mission and main goal of Islam. In fact, besides just fighting in the cause of Allah against Jewish unbelievers, Muslims also target all non-Muslims including you and me.

 

Goomba put his finger on it OYM. There is no shame in admitting that you almost inevitably switch topics and don't address the theme under discussion. Classic strawman.

You see, if you REALLY wanted to refute my Strawman accusations, you would do exactly that ... LOL ... refute it, without resorting to Strawmen. But you don't. All you do is SAY in effect "I don't switch topics", which is obviously untrue.

Here's a suggestion. Stick to threads about the Jihadist threat. Then you won't be guilty of off-topic discussions and Strawmen. Simple. Capiche? It would also be better for your blood pressure.

So, back to Israel's MAJOR aggressions in 1948, 1956, 1966, 1967, 1982, and 2009. Is anyone willing to refute that Israel is well-documented as being the aggressor in 1956, 1966, and 1967? Anyone willing to claim that General Dayan, Begin, General Uzi Narkis, UN observer Mühren, (then Chief of Staff) Yitzhak Rabin, Minister Mordehai Bentov, General Yigal Allon, Levi Eshkol (Prime Minister), Ben-Ami (ex-Minister of Foreign Affairs), and many others were all lying about who was the provoker and what was the cause of Israel's invasions (note the plural)?

Oh, and before I forget one of the themes of this thread in the midst of all the topic avoidance, does anyone want to claim that the report of Colonel Mordechai Bar-On, chief of bureau of the IDF chief of staff, on the Sevres collusions was false? Remember, it was reported here how Ben-Gurion's 'fantastic' (his word) proposal was to acquire more land, southern Lebanon, the West Bank and Sinai, and that was why he came to the meeting to discuss the invasion of Suez. Fedayeen, my foot!!

If not, then let us move on to the "Affair" and to what happened to Count Bernadotte.

 

Wow. So Hitler was allowed to attack?

You sure you wanted to write that?

 

Quite interesting. It seems that followers of Israel would like for us to believe that Hitler had the right to murder Jews since he considered them as being a "possible enemy"!?

 

Pity it is so off-topic and such a blatant Strawman

 

Leaving the personal insult aimed at Khalil aside, didn't I warn you ... here he goes again ... claiming victories without having refuted even a single post of mine pertinent to this thread. In fact he claims these victories and in his next breath, admits that it is a waste of time to address my analyses.

Pretty weird logic, don't you agree? Maybe the spinning head he refers to ...

Tell you what, here's your last chance at credibility OYM, show us one historical analysis by me that you refuted, without having to resort to a topic-switching strawman (which of course would be no rebuttal at all).

 

Y'know, Israeli gov just passed a law recently that all 3y old educational institutes will be free for the parents, free education in Isreal will start at age 3, that will save me about 230 $ per month ,

The cut from the budget for this law, as posted in the newspapaers, is about the same size as US annual aid to Israel, about 4% of the annual budget.

Do you think the gov would pass this law if this sum was soooo noticable to the point were it can be said "Israel cannot do without", I know you didnt say it now but many others did and I think you continue the same line.

The Aid is great, thank you America, but we are not dependant on it.

 

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