Oversized soda to be banned in New York.

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  1. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    (Big Ice and Big Cup lobby got to Bloomberg) ;)
     
  2. Serfin' USA

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    lol among various other lobbies....

    Maybe "2 drink minimum" will come to mean something new in NYC.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

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    Entrepreneurial folks in So Cal would simply rent a U-Haul truck, drive to Arizona and bring back a truck load of the banned sizes and sell them.
     
  4. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Have they banned certain sizes in California too?
     
  5. jackdog

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    ::shrug:: whatya want to bet that all you can drink soda 's will be all the rage in NYC. Post mix soda has a huge profit margin so if a store charges 2 -3 bucks you literally could not drink enough in one sitting to make the store/restaurant see a loss
     
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    I still won't argue that two wrongs make a right, or that it's moral to use force against people who eat and drink differently than I do because I don't like the way the government charges me to treat them.

    If I were insistent that I be protected from the costs that others incur, then I'd be a hypocrite for not demanding that the government prohibit or massively tax the following:

    - Poor food choices
    - Motorcycle riding
    - Bicycle riding
    - Skateboarding
    - Any extreme sport
    - Running (wrecks the knees and hips)
    - Alcohol use
    - Any sport or activity with risk of significant injury or which might lead to complications in ligaments and joints later in life
    - Being out in the sun with anything less than 30 SPF covering any area of skin likely to be exposed to the sun.
    - Unprotected sex, even between allegedly monogamous couples.
    - Driving or being in a car for any non-essential activity.
    - Small aircraft travel, unless essential
    - Low wage, high-risk professions such as truck driving, roofing, etc.
    - Low wage, body damaging professions such as painting and construction work.

    The list can go on. All of these activities present a risk, and, therefore a strong likelihood that you, as a taxpayer, will have to pay more money to the government to support those who engage in them even if you do not. That's simply not fair, and, since you argue that two wrongs make a right, the way to make it right is to outlaw or surcharge those activities.

    I think you should also be forced to exercise for 1 hour per day with a government-licensed trainer who can report on your progress on a regular basis.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    No, it's hypothetical. NYC folks could do that by going to NJ or CT.
     
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    It is not your job to worry about someone else's health. The tax is to pay for their stupidity, period. Like I said, Soylent Green is coming
     
  9. Serfin' USA

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    Ah... yeah, it reminds me of the illegal cigarette trade in NYC due to absurd taxes on local supplies.
     
  10. rstones199

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    When I have to go to the hospital someday and I get my bill, I don’t think that argument will hold up when I’m asking why In getting over charged for everything.
     
  11. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will you balk when they answer; "Because your beloved government statists created this, albeit massive, unconstitutional pool of money that only a limited number of people are forced to actually contribute to.... but a whopping 312 million people in various health conditions, requirements, and consciousness dip into at will...and since it would be even more unconstitutional to pile on another layer of statist force and bans to modify the individual behaviors of 312 million people, the whole statist inspired boondoggle would crash to the ground if you didn't pay your ever increasing "fair share" for the good of the collective."??

    Progressive statism is the demon sibling of compounding interest.
     
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    If you do, they'll most certainly reply that the reason that they have to charge so much, is because of the number of people that have NO insurance whatsoever.

    Some people have figured out that when they're sick, the best place to go is the ER rather than a private physician - because the ER is prohibited by law from turning them away.
     
  13. rstones199

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    Fix the law...only when a life is endangered can you goto the ER with no insurance.
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    This is part of why there is a push for socialized care. Without it, then the private method of making up for losses is raising everyone else's costs.

    Socialized systems soak these losses better via more flexible budgets and through a greater focus on preventive care.
     
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    Dumb liberals!
     
  16. tkolter

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    Problem is when one goes you may not know if a condition is life threatening until after your seen by a doctor and tests are done, chest pains can be anything from acid reflux to a heart attack. Thanks to the Real ID law I got a sweet option I just go to the county "indigent care" hospital and tell them I'm homeless and have no ID due to all my documents being stolen and I can't replace them. Its oddly common now so its fully plausible. They treat me and they won't bill me since I'm "homeless" and this means "no way to contact me and no sources of money". Its kind of sweet for once something the government did to limit access actually helps me out. I haven't done this but a good number of people I know have who have homes and sources of income and could pay, but just opt to BS to avoid paying.

    Back on the topic. I have a relative in the city that runs an eatery in New York and he said he will just have two 16 oz. cups based on different colors one with no refills and one with unlimited while dining in refills with each cup dated and time coded. This way he will comply with the law and can cater to those that want to drink ample amounts of soda.
     
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    [video=youtube;3LBeCNn2vro]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LBeCNn2vro[/video]

    High fructose corn syrup is one of the worst things you can put in your body. Thank You Michael Bloomberg for taking on one of the nations biggest problem.
     
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    Q. Is high-fructose corn syrup bad for you?

     
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    Perhaps but no one is forcing people to drink it, and that video seems to compare calories with sugary coke to diet coke which has no sugar or high calorie content in a spot or two.

    Might I add I love going to all-u-can-eat buffets at times since its cheap and I can eat once a day and fill up, in my area at least they are cheap, are they going to ban that next? When does it stop?
     
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    The same tiresome arguments were made when NYC banned smoking in restaurants and bars.

    When will the tiresome arguments stop

    PS: Diet Coke is not mentioned in the video..only a can of coke zero was shown.
     
  21. Serfin' USA

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    A lot of states have banned smoking in public places. Mine did it recently despite being the tobacco capital of the country.

    It's rather nanny statish though. A business owner should have the right to decide for himself if he wants to allow smoking or not.
     
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    It would make more sense to ban HFCS than banning a cup size.
     
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    I would agree with this 100%, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg doesnt have that kind of authority.

    He can only get a debate rolling in this country.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

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    I just don't believe he did this for health reasons. It wouldn't surprise me if he either did this for publicity or, as I said earlier, as a boon for the soda industry.
     
  25. GeddonM3

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    i have a pic for Bloomberg and the rest of the "i will tell you how to live" dems, but im not sure if im allowed to post it. its just a pic with a big ass drank and a lil message in the form of a birdy :) .

    anybody know bloomberg so they can pass on the message?
     

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