Meet the Next President

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. goober

    goober New Member

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    Who does the GOP have?
    Ted Cruz?
    Mitt Romney redux Chris Christie?
    Sarah Palin?

    You see the problem?
     
  2. AtsamattaU

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    Yes I do. But I still think they can put together a decent docket. Cut Palin and Cruz, and about 150 lbs off of Christie. Throw in Rubio, Jindal, Nikki Haley, and someone else who suddenly rises to fame over the next couple years (no idea how). I'm not saying the slate would make me proud to be an American, but it would lead to a much more interesting and informative primary campaign. I have a harder time coming up with a list for the Democrats. I know it starts with Hillary...
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Obama was certainly no moderate and if Hillary couldn't beat a relatively unknown with no experience or accomplishments to speak of why would you expect her to win this time?
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    You left out Jeb Bush, Thune, Ryan, Paul and yes Christie who won handly in a Democrat state.

    What do the Democrats have? Hillary who lost to an unknown freshman Senator with no record or experience or accomplishments to speak of? Hillary who once again proved she is not up to the job during her failed stint as SecState?

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    She would certainly make a better President than Hillary.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Of course he was. That's why over 60 million Americans elected him twice.


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    Pretending that more than half the electorate are "Liberals!" is just silly.

    Republicans.

    Although Christy may well have a chance against her.
     
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    Obama lied about being moderate. That should be no surprise now since it's established that he's a pathological liar.

    Obama was a relatively unknown and poorly experienced and qualified, yet he won. Of course, he did have cover from the MSM combined with voter fraud. :roll:
     
  7. PatriotNews

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    Why bother responding if all you have is ad hominem attacks and abstract denials. Perhaps if you provided proof of the existence of this cult you speak of, you might find some credibility of your own. This is the first I have heard of a cult of this type. Does that cult include the mainstream media, because they seemed to be involved in it as well?
     
  8. goober

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    OK, I'm going to respond to a guy who's avatar is out of a 1950's porn magazine.
    Because the cult told him that it was a picture of Obama's mother, and he believed it.
     
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    I figured you were not up to the challenge. Is that Obama's mother? What is the name of this cult you speak of? This is why HRC will not be the next president:

    [video=youtube;4B7dZReimPI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B7dZReimPI[/video]
     
  10. goober

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    You reveal yourself as a cult member, you cling to demonstrably wrong beliefs, as your beliefs get proven wrong, it deepens your faith in the cult.

    Here you present a mashup of testimony that millions of Americans saw.
    You think it disqualifies Hillary from running, that's what the cult leaders told you to believe.
    Meanwhile after this testimony, polls showed Hillary Clinton to be the most respected politician in America, and the big front runner in the 2016 polls.


    See how your beliefs diverge from reality?
    You think this testimony destroyed Hillary, in reality, it made her even more popular.
    That's a sure sign of a cult member, refusal to acknowledge reality when it conflicts with cult beliefs.
     
  11. justoneman

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    Then why Lincoln as your avatar exactly. Hillary Clinton is no Abraham Lincoln.
     
  12. ballantine

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    ROFL! Kind of like that sniper fire Hillary says she ran away from in Kosovo?

    Meh.... what difference, at this point, does it make?
     
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    Hillary seems a bit closer to Lincoln than anyone likely to run on the "Republican" side...unless Huntsman gets the nod.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    Non-Sequitor. He was no moderate and no one protrayed him as one, he was quite radical in his "hope and change" and the direction he said he would take the country. Left.

    Again, she could not even beat Obama who had one brief shining moment when he gave a short speech at the convention. No record of achievement, no experience, nothing. How did she lose to him if she is such a formidable candidate?

    Or Jeb Bush or a host of governors.
     
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    How is Hillary more like Lincoln than is Obama for example?
     
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    I disagree. Whilst some rightist wacko birds scream "Radical!", "Liberal!" or even "Socialist!" or Communist!", the policies he has advocated, by any reasonable criteria, are generally quite mainstream, well within the range of the politically moderate tradition. What "radical" legislation do you believe he has proposed?

     
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    Cite the moderate policies he advocated when he ran and the ones he instituted in office. His voting record includes lots of "present"'s And the median Democrat voter is NOT a moderate.

    "If you put aside the emergency measures required by the financial crisis, three major policy ideas have dominated American politics in recent years: a plan that uses an individual mandate and tax subsidies to achieve near-universal health care; a cap-and-trade plan that tries to raise the prices of environmental pollutants to better account for their costs; and bringing tax rates up from their Bush-era lows as part of a bid to reduce the deficit. In each case, the position that Obama and the Democrats have staked out is the very position that moderate Republicans have staked out before."

    This person knows not of what they speak. The individual mandate was discussed and then tossed aside along with cap-and-trade and was NEVER as Obama envisioned which was a tool to put the coal companies and coal fire generating plants out of business, a RADICAL position. And the Republicans in the 1990's opposed Clinton tax rate increases advocated tax rate cuts not increases of which Obama wants even more.
     
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    [video=youtube;w0QVE2aZtqY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QVE2aZtqY[/video]
     
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    Name a Republican that ALL Republicans admire that could be their 2016 Nominee.
     
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    They can't, it can't be done.
     
  21. Natty Bumpo

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    Adopting a reform that was based directly upon the legislation enacted by the GOP presidential nominee, pushed by Newt Gingrich, praised by the Heritage Foundation, and recommended as a national model by TP darling Jim DeMint is hardly "radical" and/or "leftist" obviously.

    Perhaps, advocating a single-payer, universal plan such as has proven more successful in virtually all advanced nation in varying degrees might be deemed considerably left of centre, but not Willard's popular innovation. The President went the timid route proven effective by a Republican governor.

    Neither is restoring the higher tax rates of the very wealthy. Most Americans support that approach as a means to reducing the deficit by a large margin, and they are hardly "radicals", or "socialists" as some might pretend.

    Of course, cap-and-trade is replete with GOP credentials as well.



    Attempting to cast the President as "radical" or "leftist" or "socialist" based on his legislative agenda would appear to collapse when it confronts the reality. Such hyperbole is farcical. Reverting to the "birther" business may have been as valid a way of attacking the President, but at least was clearly funnier.
     
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    Don't think so either.

    Christie or Jeb Bush?....the Tea Partyers hate and call "RINOs".

    Cruz or Rand Paul?....the saner Republicans think are the "radicals who took us down that disasterous Shutdown Debacle."

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    "Obamacare" nearly identical to the "Republican alternative to Hillarycare" from 1993....back then? It was called a "free market, individual-based solution". Today?..."Communism". :D
     
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    They've painted themselves into a corner with their own rhetoric.
     
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    If she had no clue what her department needed security wise in Benghazi, how well will she know what a full administrative staff and cabinet secretaries are doing? No, Hillary is another example of a poor administrator like Obama.
     
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    [video=youtube;3sY2pzCU5JI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sY2pzCU5JI[/video]
     

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