The Tea Party

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  1. Taxcutter

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    The laws that prevent vote fraud are hardly corrupt.
     
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    Unconstitutional. Provide every citizen free photo ID, then we can talk.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Indiana does that, but you do still have to provide some credible evidence of who you are and your alleged residence in checked.

    The courts have OK'd Indiana's voter ID law.
     
  4. ErikBEggs

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    A photo ID is not required to provide credible evidence of who you are. Name / addresses are listed on any kind of utility bill, bank statement, etc.

    Conservative courts. Pennsylvania ruled the contrary. No surprise there. Pennsylvania has a significant minority population in Philadelphia.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which is why Obama groups like ACORN and SEIU have been caught red-handed
    by Project Veritas on Video. Doesn't get any more blatant and obvious.
    In fact could be part of the reason big mouth Liberal Jim Moran decided to
    forgo running again for Congress.His son { Patrick } who ran his father's congressional
    campaign was nabbed red-handed advising a caller { Project Veritas } on ways to
    cheat and pad votes considering it will be c/o the Democrat Party.Patrick resigned in
    disgrace from his Father's office.
     
  6. garyd

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    The Supreme court will eventually decide this and you robably won't be happy with the outcome.

    Regarding your silly tag line, please tell me would you rather be an African-American or live in The Congo, or Zimbabwe?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the city of Philly that ius causing all the problems.Itis run by flat out Racist
    blacks like the Mayor { Nutter } and that daffy Congressman { Chaka Fattah } who
    not only allowed but probably helped to facilitate Voting monitors be banned from
    most inner city voting precincts. Those monitors had to quickly find a judge willing
    to overturn city councils bid to ban any outside monitors of inner city elections.
    I guess that explains why Philadelphia was even worse than Cleveland.There
    were actually precincts in philly where not a single Romney ballot was cast.
    meaning 100 % went for Obama. There was a county in Ohio that recorded a
    108% democrat turnout. 8 % more than were even registered.
    If it's a General Election,you can bet yer bippy,somewhere a Democrat is
    mounting a voter fraud initiative.It's what happened to Allen West in Florida.
    That is why MSNBC spent all of summer 2012 talking about Voter Fraud and
    Voter ID. To give the impression they care about fair elections.
    What a crock.They obsessed over it because they wanted to have the
    moral high ground.In case it's discovered that Fraud occurred c/o of Democrats.
    It's called Projection. Just beat yer foe to the punch and accuse them of Lying
    or cheating First.Standard Obama/Alinsky method. Obama Lies & Cheats and then he makes sure
    he accusses his foe { Republicans } of doing what he does.But he does it first.
    The first one to accuse usually seems like the good guy.It's how Obama won his
    state senate seats and how he drives policy. Just accuse republicans of holding the
    country hostage.When in fact no finer example of holding the country hostage than Obama's
    presidency.
     
  8. ErikBEggs

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    Let them decide. Tell the republicans to stop fixing election districts and start tackling minority issues.

    Irrelevant.
     
  9. ErikBEggs

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    Poll tax (through purchase of a photo ID) is in direct violation of the 24th Amendment.
     
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    Oh yeah I saw that video. Dems didnt care one bit.
     
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    Oh they care, a great deal. Which is why they are working so hard to defend their ability to fraud the vote by blocking things like voter ID.

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    Yeah, voter intimidation, by the right, you mean. They only want white people voting.
     
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    Oh you haven't heard? They say they want to block it because they think black people aren't capable of carrying IDs. Can you imagine anyone not on the far left getting away with such a statement?

    Must suck to be black and be the Democrats "lowest common denominator" card every other week. Me personally, I would stand up to them and say "(*)(*)(*)(*) you, you are going to see I carry my ID after the cops come and wonder why I stomped your racist face in". But you know, they take it, and the left is happy because they are "filling their role". Deplorable. Worse, they have even created a culture within the black community that if you stand up to the paternalism of the Democrats they outcast you. Apparently, only white people are allowed to have different political opinions, blacks have no such right or they will be persecuted by the far left. That is "equality" for you.

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    There is no tax to vote.
     
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    A photo ID is money paid to the state government. That is usually considered a tax.
     
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    Then argue IDs should be free, but the tax isn't to vote, it isn't a poll tax.
     
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    I thought Muslim was a religion
     
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    In a constitutional sense, I think your argument is weak, but I do agree that in a state that requires a photo ID to vote, there should be no cost to getting one.
     
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    ID's should be free.

    I receive my voter registration card in the mail. If voter ID laws are to be valid, I should receive an invitation to take my picture for a photo ID if I don't already own one. Otherwise, voter ID laws are nothing more than voter suppression (which is EXACTLY how Republicans have been using them).

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    Good, we are in agreement.
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    Amen!!

    You know, EVERY damned State where they try to implement those ALEC-approved "Voter ID Laws"... all the people of the those groups "targeted" for disenfranchisement, ought to just say (in the LOUDEST and most politically activistic ways possible):

    "Look, we know that YOU DON'T LIKE US... but we NEED our RIGHT TO VOTE, PROTECTED... (at least) as much as some want their right to get a gun protected."
     
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    Ok fine free IDs or nominal fee, like $1 instead of $3 what I had to pay last time.

    Voter fraud is suppression. That is why the left wants to use IDs that don't have addresses so people can vote out of district. You can't guarantee a fair election without an ID and you have not tried to refute that argument. Do you put no value at all on voters voting out of district?

    In Florida where we have ID laws now, there are always exception papers you can sign to get around them if you are an incompetent democrat that can't carry an ID or feed themselves. Easy peasy.
     
  21. ErikBEggs

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    Nominal fee is unconstitutional.

    Voter fraud is EXTREMELY rare.

    IDs are not required to cast a vote. A signature in conjunction with a utility bill or bank statement as proof of residency accomplishes the EXACT same thing as a "photo ID." Your picture is unnecessary.

    Obviously Florida has laws.. it has an idiot republican governor.

    EXACTLY. Signature is all that is needed to cast a vote. So you agree the photo ID is unnecessary?
     
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    It is, but people use it as a cover for all things 'Arab'. When a right winger says that 'Muslims' are invading their country, in their head it has the dual meaning of 'Arabs are invading my country'.
     
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    You NAILED IT!!!

    Indeed and Amen!!

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    That is very true.
     
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    I don't have a problem with Arabs **invading** my country, I have a problem with terrorists invading my country. a lot of focus is placed on Islam and terrorists, but there are terrorists from other religions too. I don't know enough about Islam to say if the teachings really do encourage violence against non Muslims, or not, but i know Christianity and other religions have their own history of violence and teaching violence in the name of religion, so i'd imagine it is similar to that. An interpretation. In fact I believe a majority of Muslims, Christians and any other religion and non religion are for peace regardless of religion, the media just focuses on the extreme fringes.
     
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    The most dangerous terrorists, look like you/I; they fit-in and they have guns. They are home-grown. (Keep your eyes open.)
     

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