The Tea Party

No they have corn hybrids for fuel now too and more being developed. Monsanto may save the world again. either way it will take a lot of roundup.

Boat engines run for like 35 years or so in good condition. I have a 1977 commercial outboard.

I never argued to use it as a transport fuel though. That is a straw man. I think they should use it to hear homes and power factories and the like. Our energy costs have to remain competitive and natural gas does that. Solar means we never manufacture here again. We need a middle ground that works for industry.


But to the main point - natural gas works, we have it, it is clean, why not use it? Why let it sit and go to waste just because Matt Damon made some sweet oil money from some Arabs scaring America into believing it is harmful or that fracking is new.

 

I don't notice much racism so much, just extreme social conservatism. Fiscally I am fairly in line with them, bit socially I'm a mixed bag and that's where I get disenchanted by the movement

 

Prove they have corn hybrids for fuel.

Solar power has been dropping in price. Writing it off is premature. The tops of every factory, home, etc, could have solar panels on the roof one day to drastically cut down the electric bills. In time, that'd allow power companies to shut down older, dirtier, and less efficient plants for newer plants. I'm pro-natural gas for bulk power production, but we need diversity, I think we shouldn't have more than 25% of our power from any one source.

There are other sources of natural gas in the world that are cleaner and easier to produce than fracking.

 

There is plenty of racism coming from the ranks of the Tea Party (amongst those who identify as such). And funny, they are hardly (if ever) called-out by those who are essentially leadership. Sadly, many on the Right have indeed used racism as a wedge to divide and as a catalyst to motivate their political base.

I really despise that.

 

Racism is on both sides of the aisle, but I do not see it being used as a rally cry of sorts. I would need some hard proof that the Republican party, in particular the TEA party wing is infested with racists anymore then democrats, libertarians and any other party.

 

Google will get you to the information I'm referring to.

The racism is connected-with the Southern Strategy of the Right; which they have in many ways shown they have not abandoned.

When I used to vote 'more' Republican and to the right, I began to notice it more. I don't see the efficacy in pulling America further into that kind of political thinking.

 

You mean, because the south tends to be more religious and politicians on the right tend to preach religion more? That's how they have been able to keep a finger lock on the south. also the south tends to be more socially conservative. Fiscal wise neither party has really shown a willingness to do what it takes, except some on the far right TEA party included.
I am not noticing a real difference in racism on either side if the aisle, based off my experiences.

 

Google... and learn about the "Southern Strategy". (This is fairly common knowledge.) Another key word for you is, "Dixiecrats".

This stuff is 'elementary' in American history and politics.

 

of course there is racism in the tea party. there is racism everywhere you look and i don't know many tea folks that would claim there is no racism in their ranks. the difference, of course, is that the racism of the left is vehemently denied by its very practitioners, redefined and then labeled as a virtue. it is this hypocrisy that i despise.

 

Again I must disagree. What you originally stated was that the TEA Party was another name for conservative Republican, and that's clearly not the case since not all Conservative Republicans are Tea Party and some actively oppose the Tea Party. Conservative Republican is no synonym For Tea Party.

There is an overlap of course, but there is also an overlap with Libertarians and I don't think you would argue that all Libertarians are conservative Republicans.

 

So yes, racism was (and still is) a part of what the Right uses today, to affect American politics. It's a sad reality.

Please, consider this excerpt from a 1970's newspaper article:

If nothing else, I want people to know or discern that politics in America surely involves race (in an integral way).

 

If they had, they would have promptly vanished into irrelevance. I realize that a lot of Libertarians (Capital L- actually in the party) are perfectly fine with that. They want to be the guys with the bumper sticker saying "Don't Blame Me, I Voted Libertarian" or just being free to say, "A pox on both your houses," and never take responsibility for any of their policies put to the test in the real world.

Meanwhile the Tea Party has gotten at least 2 libertarians elected to Congress, Rand Paul in the Senate and Justin Amash in the House (more depending on how widely you want to define libertarianism). How many libertarians have the Libertarian Party gotten elected to Congress? Zero after 43 years.

If you just want to talk theory and feel smug, but never want the responsibility of having your ideas tested or making any difference in the real world, than the Libertarian Party is the one for you. But there are other people who think these issues are important enough to be applied.

 

So you blame the Tea Party, which didn't even exist in the 70's when that article was written, for the "Southern Strategy" but left let the party that actually supported and enforced segregation, and the party that actually employed the water hoses on civil rights protesters, off the hook. That's fine, but just remember Bull Connor's party is your party.

 

With the Tea Party (sorry to notice/say), it is an often-used TOOL.

We aren't just talking about a few 'racist' individuals, here/there.

All of this is so obvious; it's really quite disgusting.

 

You think all of that racism from the 70's simply dissipated (from the political arena)?

Really?

No, it did not.

 

Your reading comprehension...eh, it's not really all there. Of course in your quote you truncated what I said. Context is everything. But what you decided to cut out shows that your not capable of dealing with the issue. At least from an honest perspective. It's just partisan hackery from you.

Heh, I should have known better.

 

Your understanding of all things is not perfectly 'brilliant' either.

So, say what you mean to say.

I'm not here to tolerate your BS; I have another purpose.

 

oh yes, i'd forgotten how often you like to play the race card to blacken your opponents' reputations. there, i gave you another perfect opportunity. it's such a worn out ploy and no one is really taking you seriously any more. what more and more people are noticing is how often the left uses race to divide. y'all can blither on endlessly about rednecks and such, but the real racist rhetoric is coming mostly from your own heroes. from the cbc to la raza, we've gotten so used to hearing it that it's just more noise from the left.

 

I think you are missing the points I made.

I am not surprised.

The race cards are all over the place. And the reasons for playing them, depends greatly upon the player who holds them.

The problems are not DISCUSSING the issues concerning race, but the hearts and minds of some doing so.

Race card? Sure... they're all over the place.

Get used to it.

 

actually, quite a bit of it did. no matter how y'all may try to keep it alive, a lot of that racism you love to harp on has fallen by the wayside. as the old guard died off or were replaced, their more lukewarm followers began to understand just how destructive those sentiments were. those whose racism was born more of inexperience and ignorance than true hatred have often discovered the foolishness of such backward thinking. the reality is that the most prevalent source of today's mainstream racism comes from your back yard. it is the minorities who have gained power that seek to exact revenge on the sons and daughters of a bygone era. they sustain their power through catering to the hatred they have inspired in others, keeping the divisions alive and growing.

 

Okay.

Just go on living life.

We all learn from that.

 

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For most the savings won't offset the cost of the panels. They don't last forever especially with hurricanes. We used to have one on our roof.

Prove it is cheaper to get them then to exploit what we have here. Also fracking has been around for like 50 years or so. It is slant drilling that has improved.

Look, your just being stubborn about this. No one want to pay solar costs. That is why it has to be subsidized. Heavily. Meanwhile, natural gas can eat homes tomorrow and create a few hundred thousand jobs. You know, a half a years with of new jobs these days.

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That is just leftist BS. Trotting out the race card is old. Meanwhile the democrat party says we can't have voter IDs because minorities are too incapable of producing one. Now that is some hardcore racist (*)(*)(*)(*) right there.

 

You aren't accepting this (reality) well, are you?

 

Yes. Are you accepting the one the left tells you to believe? Same people that say you are incapable of carrying a drivers license because of your skin color?

 

TO DEMOCRATS:


TO REPUBLICANS:


REALITY: "The Tea Party movement is an American political movement that is primarily known for advocating a reduction in the U.S. national debt and federal budget deficit by reducing U.S. government spending and taxes.[1][2] The movement has been called partly conservative,[3] partly libertarian,[4] and partly populist.[5] It has sponsored protests and supported political candidates since 2009.[6][7][8]"