The Tea Party

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  1. ErikBEggs

    ErikBEggs New Member

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    Nope. Felons LOSE their rights through committing a criminal act. That is not a condition, for a felon was once a law abiding citizen BEFORE they committed a crime.

    Tell me, what crime does someone without a photo ID commit?

    Your identification is irrelevant to voting. The only thing relevant to this democracy is your citizenship. Your identification has nothing to do with election results.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    You just hate them because they were against your Syrian war.
     
  3. ErikBEggs

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    The constitutionality of Felony disenfranchisement has been argued before.

    I personally would interpret it as unconstitutional. Voting is a citizen RIGHT. Rights are unconditional.
     
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    Identification is not necessary for voting.

    Voting is a RIGHT, not a privilege. Rights are not conditional. Voter ID laws are unconstitutional.
     
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    So I don't need a ID to buy a gun?
     
  6. ErikBEggs

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    A gun isn't an explicit right. Guns are not analogous to voting. If guns were as explicit as voting, scholars wouldn't still be arguing about the true meaning of 2nd Amendment and its controversial phrasing "A well regulated militia."
     
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    Do the states not have the explicit right to set the standards for voting?

    There is an explicit right to firearm ownership ask the Supreme Court.

    Why can't you just abandon voter fraud and get with a fair election?
     
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    For one, Muslim is a synonym for arab.
     
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    Stupid. Felons cannot vote. Neither can minors. That is a condition of voting.

    The same crime someone attempting to enter a country without their passport commits. If you attempt to claim that it is perfectly legitimate to vote without establishing your right to vote - by PROVING YOUR IDENTITY - you have to claim that it is perfectly legitimate to enter another country without a PASSPORT.

    How absolutely bobbleheaded. It establishes your bonafides. If you're afraid to do so, you've lost your privilege. It is NOT a right, it is a PRIVILEGE. Learn the difference between the two.
     
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    Age is specifically addressed in the 26th Amendment.

    Felony disenfranchisement is unconstitutional.


    Voting is not a privilege; it is a citizen RIGHT.
     
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    For ANY of our votes to have meaning, voter fraud must be stopped.

    If we want to adopt the purple finger die used by our troops setting up honest voting in Iraq, after Husien, Fine. But SOME mechanism has to be used to prevent those who would vote multiple times from doing so. That means purging and re-verifying the voting roles, and providing some means of insuring that the election is HONEST and people vote only once.

    If you're not going to use the purple finger die, then a Photo ID requirement is not only reasonable, it should be required.

    It should be required to protect the Right to Vote of ALL of U.S.

    If a particular person doesn't have a photo ID, then lets help that voter get ONE and only ONE!

    Because that Photo ID is protecting the voting RIGHTS of ALL Americans!

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    Agreed. Voter fraud is voter suppression.
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    Do you have figures on how much voter fraud has taken place in the last 8-10 years?

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    Because of the stupid HYPE... some people even THINK that guns are more important than voting.
     
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    The Tea Party are Real Americans,first & foremost.They are diehard traditionalists who
    insist on what this country was founded upon. The idea of Life,Liberty and the Pursuit
    of Happiness as put forth in our founding document,the Constitution.
    The Tea Party is also the polar opposite or antithesis of what Obama and
    Pelosi curry favor with.That being the - Occupy Wall Street Movement - which was
    a carryover of the 60's radical Anti-war movement.
    The key being radical.Meaning it is acceptable as long as the word " radical "
    is used.classic example being Bill Ayers, the Domestic terrorist responsible for
    bombing { he built very nasty bombs in some dingy basement } Federal bldg. such
    as our Pentagon.Ayers and spouse Bernardine Dohrn are now lauded acadamians
    in the Chicago area { Tenured professors }.Ayers and Dohrn helped Obama launch his
    Chicago political career in their Brownstone.
    Tea Party members are Not " radical " but rather mild-mannered and well-behaved.
    We saw firsthand how mild-mannered and well-behaved the - Occupy - crowd was.
    We're talking Rape and muggings and theft and destruction of property and
    squatting and taking over public common areas and even throwing bottles and rocks
    at police.And that was almost every day wherever - Occupy - was squatting.
    Not one such example in all the 4 years of the Tea Party activity.
    The Tea Party may be a bit outspoken but they never disrupt,cause a scene
    or make violent demands such as - Occupy -.
    In fact,replacating as Obama suggested in 2008 { " get in their face " }
    with any foe.Tea Party members are dignified and respectful and concerned.
    That is why Community Organizers like Obama and Richard Trumka have it in
    for the Tea Party and accuse the tea party of doing what They { democrats and Occupy }
    Do. That is Astroturf.Organize to shout out demands and cause a ruckus as Big Labor
    did in Wisconsin against Governor Walker.That was done in league and tacit approval
    of our White House.Because Trumka bragged that not a day goes by that he isn't
    personally AT the White House meeting for some such Saul Alinsky session.
     
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    Thousand of instances of all sorts of fraud. Just in Obama's ACORN alone.

    The amount voting out of district is enormous. I live in a small area that has more voters then full time residents. How does that happen? Snow birds vote in my swing state every presidential election. We want fair elections. You don't need to be fighting on the side of fraud and suppression.
     
  16. ErikBEggs

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    Not only is this false,

    If you want to require a photo ID for voting, have each state PROVIDE EVERY citizen a photo ID, free of charge. Fair compromise.
     
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    Amen!!!
     
  18. Kurmugeon

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    One and ONLY ONE photoID, after verification, for every CITIZEN, Not Illegal Immigrants!

    If you're going to claim something as false, you should provide at least a modicum of evidence.
     
  19. ErikBEggs

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    Not good enough. Voting is a citizen right in this country. If one photo ID is lost, the ability to pay for a second directly affects the outcome of an election. Cut the crap. Republicans have been fixing districts and creating these laws for years to keep minorities from voting.
     
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    Dude, The five are all scarcely tea party people. There's the old fat caucasian dude, sits to the left of center who is little more than an old school leftist union dude. Then there is the blonde who is an establishment Republican type another is a straight up libertarian, and the others are tea party types. By the way on economic issues it woill be damn hard to tell a tea party guy from a libertarian.

    Put it this way any party that is being all but physically assaulted by the leftist goon squads while simultaneously being hammered by the country club Republicans must have found something that scares the hell out of both. Put another way given the othr two choices I know who I'm going to back...
     
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    In your own words "Cut the Crap" .... You just want to be able to cheat in the election. Sorry, I disagree.
     
  22. ErikBEggs

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    What is cheating?! Providing every citizen with a photo ID and no conditions is not cheating at all, lol!!!!
     
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    What does this have to do with the Tea Party?
     
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    They support these corrupt laws.
     
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    The undocumented don't vote anyway. Nonetheless, I'd be interested in any evidence you have, even a modicum,
     

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