Costs are going down for healthcare because of Obamacare

Last I checked with positive job growth numbers every month, I haven't seen that growth stop yet. All though, we know some who would love to see it stop.

 

"...positive job growth numbers every month..."

Taxcutter says:
Very, very small positive growth numbers.

 

Correct.

Most sensible Americans realize and accept that the ACA is far better than what we had; which was a bunch of insurance companies ripping people off.

 

That's it! I mean why would we want to continue doing that, taking a percentage of the population totally out of the game to entertain profit for private insurance, when instead have a better system where everyone can participate at an affordable price? Like I said earlier, you are either for the crowd who want some to play, or you are the crowd who want everyone to play. It's that simple.

 

Only those who are wealthy enough (or think they are) to shield themselves from costs, think the OLD way was the best.

What a bunch of sinister and selfish JERKS influencing this nation!!

 

Human beings; interesting animals for sure. Got all you need? Yes! Why do you want more? To make sure you have nothing in case I want more of what I don't need and will never use, and that you get less of what you need. Is their room in the casket for all you want that you didn't need, that you screwed others to get? No, but between my casket and my bequeathed inheritors we should be able to fit most of it in there so no one else gets a thing. And that's how it goes.

 

And that is exactly why taxing the wealthiest Americans a little more will not hurt this "society". Yeah, someone's profits may decrease a bit... but the nation will be far better off overall.

 

Everyone does NOT "play healthy" in Obamacare. There is decreased quality of service. In many cases you don't even get to see a freaking doctor. The doctors who ARE seeing patients are going to stop or reduce their willingness to take Obamacare and Medicare and Medicaid patients because they're getting reduced reimbursements.

And this wonderful level of service is only provided for people who make MORE than $11,400. If you make less than $11,400 you don't get healthcare in many states. And even if you DO make $11,400 a year, you STILL have to pay for the healthcare up front and do not get reimbursed until tax time. Why don't you explain to me how that helps someone who makes $1,000 a month? And don't forget, if they actually DO get sick they have an absurd deductible to pay before the insurance even kicks in.

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Yeah except check this out...

If it stops next month... whose fault is it?

 

And who gets to determine how much "all you need" is?

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No their profits will not decrease. Their profits will, in fact, increase. They will take advantage of the slightly more disposable income that the masses have by increasing their prices which increases inflation and then the only people who are benefitting are the business owners. The people you are CLAIMING to want to help are the very ones you're bending over and screwing.

 

What I find funny is someone who, like you, says this will also say government doesn't 'create jobs' but holy hell in the same sentence they'll say government can destroy jobs. If they can't create jobs, how the hell are they able to destroy them? You're giving them more credit in destroy jobs than you would take away from being able to create jobs. So where does their job affecting power balance out then?

Either way, the employer mandate hasn't kicked in, only individual mandate. How this would affect jobs, mandating the employee to take out an insurance plan, affect job growth? It makes little sense at all. If anything, it will do nothing to job growth. It's just another cost on the individual, not the business.

 

Decreased quality of service? How do you know? Have you got Obamacare? Heck, the darn thing just got started. How would you know about care?

- - - Updated - - - You mean you don't get health care in many states because of republican governors right? And when they get sick in Georgia, if you don't have health insurance while you're having a heart attack or going to have a baby, Governor deal is asking the federal government to give the permission to turn those patients away if they don't pay up front. Imagine that! If you have a heart attack and can't pay, just die. If you're in labor and can't pay, Governor Deal says the way to a more moral approach to having that baby since he is all about pro life, is to have that baby drop out onto the sidewalk, or let it die if the mother can't get proper medical attention to deliver that baby. I didn't realize that was part of pro-life. I guess we know now.



Yeah except check this out...

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A distinction without a difference. Doctors can always decide to practice in Mexico if they don't like the reimbursement here. The hospitals will just have to live with it. Maybe if Republicans had decided to do this years ago, rather than do a Bojangles dance before the AMA, we could've avoided all this Obamacare stuff.

 

Therein lies the problem. Republicans don't want it even if it works very well. We'll get the audits and the studies in a couple years and the Republicans tune will switch from "it won't work" to "they're taking away my freedoms" baloney.

 

There it is, RIGHT THERE!! AMEN!!!

Politicians have been screwing around with (avoiding) healthcare, since I was a BOY (40+ years ago).

 

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Evidently you are not keeping up on things. First, Deals suggestion was to reduce the unneeded trips to the ER while taking care of those that need the ER. People go to the ER for colds and it costs a lot to do that. Second, when you start cutting back on spending for health care, you will naturally get what you pay for.

 

New Oregon Data: Expanding Medicaid Increases Usage Of Emergency Rooms, Undermining Central Rationale For Obamacare

 

bwk and others

You can give up trying to support the POS obamacare. Obama has, he issued orders that pretty much makes obamacare null and void. Now you can just write the gov a letter and tell the obamacare is going to cost you too much, and you can be excused. That pretty much does away with the premier piece of Obama's legislation, and his legacy.

 

Thanks to Obamacare we have ended the years where 45,000 people a year will not die because of a lack of healthcare; http://on.msnbc.com/1e1SSLu

 

Woo Hoo, Obamacare is working as intended!

Report: Premiums rising faster than eight years before Obamacare COMBINED

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/18/r...ears-before-obamacare-combined/#ixzz2wPgwX1oH

 

Doesn't look like costs are going down to me.

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” Health industry officials say ObamaCare-related premiums will double in some parts of the country, countering claims recently made by the administration.

The expected rate hikes will be announced in the coming months amid an intense election year, when control of the Senate is up for grabs. The sticker shock would likely bolster the GOP’s prospects in November and hamper ObamaCare insurance enrollment efforts in 2015. “

This ain’t going to look good for the democrats in November if this analysis is correct.

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” Republicans frequently highlight President Obama’s promise on the campaign trail to enact a healthcare law that would “cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”

This doesn’t look very likely to me. From what I read, the young and healthy are not signing up in the numbers that are needed to shoulder most of the cost burden for the older and sicker people. And not just the premiums either, but also the deductibles and co-pays. The democrats can draw this thing out for however long they want to, but it looks like a political loser to me right now. And it also doesn’t look like the majority of ObamaCare enrollees are those who were previously uninsured. That was the whole point of the new law, and it’s not working IMHO.

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...136-obamacare-premiums-are-about-to-skyrocket

 

Woo Hoo, it's reducing costs!

 

How is it an unneeded trip when you are in labor and can't pay? This is what he is proposing. To turn pregnant women away in the event they cannot pay up front. This is Nathan Deals solution to healthcare.

 

Except of course for what really happens in the real world like a 40% increase in ER use with access to Medicaid.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/343/6168/263.abstract

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._coverage_leads_to_a_40_percent_increase.html

 

Of course again, I haven't a clue of what your riddle is saying today.



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