Bill Maher’s advice to atheists. + My plan of attack.

Bill Maher’s advice to atheists. + My plan of attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R1fwrvPM4w

Atheists and non-believers, if you are to win the minds and hearts of the masses and end the evils of religions, you must become more assertive and confrontational if you are to show that your ways are more loving and moral that the ways of those who claim belief in a God.

Non-believers must also unite somehow but at the rate they are doing it, religions are just laughing at the non-believers. It seems that the religious right is better at such things than the political and religious left. At least for the moment. Regardless of what you non-believers think of associations, sociology says you should form one to give longevity to your ideals.

That aside, if you believe, or not, and you see the damage religions are causing, --- then for goodness sake follow my plan of attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUGy2IwNmw

Do not fear, God is just a ------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oL4FWJjOuk

Regards
DL

 

Hahaha! Non-believers have been doing that for quite while and it hasn't been working. No wonder atheism is an unpopular world view but keep up the good work of making atheists look foolish.

 

What about the fatherless children which atheist behavior abuses...?

 

Sorry man, I wouldnt follow you on anything.

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You two are a kind of mirror image of eachother, tho goddism really doesnt need any help looking ridiculous.

 

How does atheism abuse fatherless children?

I spent a few years in a small town as a kid, and the religious types were the ones who scorned single mothers and shunned their children.

 

What I mean is that, atheist AKA Bill Maher, is also sexually promiscuous behavior.
This in the end produces fatherless bastard children which swell out the Welfare taxes and the Food stamps, etc, or require Abortions to cut down the number of single Mothers.

 

I have been assertive and confrontational here for years... and you know how many dogmatic minds I have changed? Zero! But then again I understand that it is an exercise in futility to change a mind that is not seeking to be changed. I am not here to change minds anyway... I am here to debate and learn.

 

ultimately, as they say, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. atheist majority countries are already showing the rest of the world a better way to live - which is more ethical and equitable, and protects our planet (given to us to look after by the god/s). at the coalface, when individuals patently live more ethical lives, and demonstrate kindness, charity, and peace, the weight of opinion will shift. it will comprehensively put the lie to the dogma "atheists are evil". don't underestimate how much damage one proven lie can do.

 

""" atheist AKA Bill Maher, is also sexually promiscuous behavior."""

Bill Maher is sexually promiscuous behaviour???? How does that work???


And the word "bastard" to describe CHILDREN is disgusting and soooo 19th century...did you know this is the 21 st century?

Abortion helps reduce the number of those "precious gifts" that you call bastards...

 

Sigh... Nooooh...

There is a fairly extensive theory behind what gets people to agree on things and this seems to go straight against it. Attacking people, criticising and so on does not win any hearts, it only antagonises people, justifies ignoring arguments because they look like they're made out of spite instead of logic. If anything, your approach seems to actively harden people's hearts.

 

There are none in my atheist family. Conversely, my brother in law, a Christian, abandoned his children. So keep your vapid, mindless, bigoted strawmen away from me.

 

BWAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Thanks for the chuckle, I needed that.

 

I am sure you have plenty of strawmen of your own. Why do atheists have such a low retention rate? It is like being an atheist is really just a transition phase in most people's life. I guess that is because it is such an unpopular world view.

 

If Bill Maher has any children, I'm sure he cares for them.

You were talking about abuse of fatherless children in the last post.... and now you call them "bastards". Hmmmm...

Religious types seem to do more harm to "fatherless" children than an absentee father.

 

What of all those that Christians abort instead of keep. At least the atheists are not killing them.

What is better? A bit of abuse, which we have yet to prove, or death?

Regards
DL

 

I guess you have not kept up with church closures.

That pace is set and all I want to do is speed up the demise of all the religions that deny women and gays equality. A fundamental justice issue that religion immorally ignore or fight.

Regards
DL

 

What is wrong with fatherless bastard children. That is what Jesus was.

A bastard chimera half breed actually. A product of bestiality if you think God a separate species than man. Right?

Regards
DL

 

Good. You seem to forget that we should be mostly writing for the lurkers. They are my target audience, so to speak, and not just the poster I argue against. I do forget that myself sometimes though.

Regards
DL

 

If non-believers are assertive and confrontational and the religious cannot take the heat then it is to them to get out of the kitchen. I have seen some good non-believers basically chase all believers out of some boards like this one. I have noted here that not too many theists engage on moral issues while they go for meaningless belief issues. Believers are recognizing that against intelligence they cannot stand.

Faith as compared to facts is a poor debate tool indeed.

Regards
DL

 

Let's take a step back. While I have little confidence in my ability to change the world, my intention with my posts is to limit the influence of religion. My understanding of you is that you share that goal, is that correct?

You are right in the responses theists give. They leave, they "get out of the kitchen", they argue other points. However, they don't vanish. They still hold their beliefs, they still hold their power in politics, they still write letters to schools to complain about evolution and so on. The only difference is that they've closed the only venue of discussion us non-believers had with them. A lot of the time, they even reinforce their beliefs. Wouldn't you say that it would be more beneficial if they stayed on the forums and actually listened to our arguments?

I can't claim that I've always managed to adhere to these ideals. I find it as satisfying to call people out on their flawed beliefs as anyone does, but it doesn't actually cause people to agree with me. I've mostly caused them to cover their ears, reinforce their beliefs and antagonise everything I stand for. This is not unique for religion, it is basic human nature, and playing to it can cause some real change in the direction we want.

 

Just because you do not see a result does not mean it is not there for the lurkers.

I am not talking senseless assault my friend. I am talking about assertive arguing and not letting theists hide in garbage or behind miracles.

The one you close up might not start thinking but the lurkers will.

Every time we back a theist into a corner, I can hear the lurkers cheers regardless of whether they believe or not. We all like a decent argument.

Regards
DL

 

I am not an atheist. I am a Gnostic Christian. I would prefer a world of Gnostic Christians as I see them as the most moral religion going. We are Universalists and give all equality including women and gays.

It would be in my best interest to convert everyone to it but realistically I will not and my best bet is to point to the evils of the religions on offer and get them on the run before I can try to grow Gnostic Christianity.

The morals of the world are more important IOW, than my growing my religion. If I can later or at the same time I will.

Regards
DL